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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Eddie Izzard interview with Salon

119 replies

ArabellaScott · 04/10/2023 14:18

I've not watched the whole thing, but just landed on:

'we know that, that, in the fetus, everyone's a girl in the fetus'

“I will punch back”: Eddie Izzard responds to transphobia and talks US comedy tour | Salon Talks

Actor and stand-up comedian Eddie Izzard shares why she started going by the name Suzy, in addition to being called Eddie, and looks back on her comedy caree...

https://youtu.be/Ia06hoeshuY?si=1pjPf8-VbRDcSZY8&t=888

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DobbyTheHouseElk · 04/10/2023 17:23

He’s one ugly non-woman.

RedToothBrush · 04/10/2023 17:44

ErrolTheDragon · 04/10/2023 14:40

Odd, I'd always assumed he was reasonably intelligent.

You didn't see him during the referendum campaigning then.

Omg he was not only totally incoherent but also actively deranged.

nauticant · 04/10/2023 17:49

It relates to the time over which the fetuses are phenotypically undifferentiated Hoardasurass.

JellySaurus · 04/10/2023 18:01

Eddie-science:

Females don't have a penis.

Embryos don't have a penis at first.

Therefore all embryos are female at first.

About the same level of science, rationality and logic as TWAW. Oh, wait, Eddie believes that, too.

VaddaABeetch · 04/10/2023 18:09

What can’t Eddie just admit what he is. Stand up & be proud.

Why try use faux science, it’s all very 2019.

lemmein · 04/10/2023 18:18

JellySaurus · 04/10/2023 18:01

Eddie-science:

Females don't have a penis.

Embryos don't have a penis at first.

Therefore all embryos are female at first.

About the same level of science, rationality and logic as TWAW. Oh, wait, Eddie believes that, too.

I don't believe for a second that Eddie thinks TWAW.

JellySaurus · 04/10/2023 18:25

I don't believe for a second that Eddie thinks TWAW.

Probably not. It's all fun and kink to him, really.

ArabellaScott · 04/10/2023 18:25

RedToothBrush · 04/10/2023 17:44

You didn't see him during the referendum campaigning then.

Omg he was not only totally incoherent but also actively deranged.

That was what I was trying to delicately step around. His thinking seems highly disordered to me.

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Delphinium20 · 04/10/2023 18:49

Jfc. If you look at a human fetus at 6 or so weeks they look like tadpoles. So why aren't we all tadpoles then? This is nothing but nonsense. It's just that you can't see the penis yet as it hasn't developed. Wolffian ducts only ever develop into male fetuses if a Y is present or a female if only Xs and this pathway is established at conception. These urinary/reproductive ducts may look the same at early stages and may be called the same but they really aren't the same thing.

Cosmosforbreakfast · 04/10/2023 18:59

I'm actually embarrassed that I once liked Eddie Izzard.

RedToothBrush · 04/10/2023 19:05

ArabellaScott · 04/10/2023 18:25

That was what I was trying to delicately step around. His thinking seems highly disordered to me.

Why tiptoe around?

During the referendum managed to upset fellow Remainers with his behaviour.

It was aggressive, intimidating and confrontational. It was ranty and incoherent. It was disrespectful and rude. It was just NASTY.

Many were actively stating they were embarrassed he was on 'their side' and some even expressed the opinion that he made them want to consider voting for Brexit!

That's not even on this subject.

The man has a problem. His behaviour is not normal and it actively upsets others.

Woman2023 · 04/10/2023 19:14

JellySaurus · 04/10/2023 18:01

Eddie-science:

Females don't have a penis.

Embryos don't have a penis at first.

Therefore all embryos are female at first.

About the same level of science, rationality and logic as TWAW. Oh, wait, Eddie believes that, too.

Also Eddie-science:
A person with a penis is female if that man feels female.

Fleabane · 04/10/2023 19:24

Eddie says he's been out for 40 years and he's known he was trans since he was 4. This feels like retconning to me.

Wetandhorrible · 04/10/2023 19:35

Fleabane · 04/10/2023 19:24

Eddie says he's been out for 40 years and he's known he was trans since he was 4. This feels like retconning to me.

Ret conning/gaslighting: one of the things I admired him for,like pp have said,was the whole 'not girls clothes,they're my clothes'. This recent stuff is merely...god knows what to be honest, but it's new and a big change.

RedToothBrush · 04/10/2023 19:36

This is an editorial for the Independent from 2016 on the referendum

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/editorials/if-he-wants-remain-to-prevail-eddie-izzard-needs-to-stay-out-of-the-eu-referendum-debate-a7074716.html
If he wants Remain to prevail, Eddie Izzard needs to stay out of the EU referendum debate

But – and you could tell there was a “but” coming – his current campaigning in favour of continued British membership of the European Union is bad for his reputation, bad for the causes he espouses, and bad for public debate in Britain. A few weeks ago, on The Andrew Marr Show, Izzard was incoherent and unpersuasive when asked about his pro-EU views. On Question Time this week he was actually awful.

For some reason Izzard, a highly intelligent man, slipped into a frankly bizarre kindergarten lingo about the need to stick together and co-operate rather than be divisive. He spoke in platitudes about our history, and cut across his fellow panellists in a way that made Nigel Farage appear the height of decency and civility.

If you look back at newspaper reports the consistent theme is the word 'incoherent'.

Another article has the following headline
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/jun/15/eddie-izzard-i-may-look-confusing-but-i-have-a-clear-message
Eddie Izzard: 'My vision would make the entire world work'

No ego there at all.

Here's some more Izzard science from 2017
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eddie-izzard-comedian-labour-party-politician-jeremy-corbyn-london-mayor-mp-a7747046.html

Izzard, who identifies as transgender, stated that he would be campaigning for Labour in “boy and girl mode”.

Speaking on the change of political understanding of transgender issues, he said: “I do feel we have crossed into a place of more political acceptance.

“It's allowed now. I have boy genetics and girl genetics.

“That's what I'm pushing for. I think I've got through the net now.”

And if you look for Izzard quotes you get the sheer irony of this gem:
“And there is a rule in every major religion, called the Golden Rule. Essentially: treat other people the way you’d like to be treated yourself. If we all did this, the whole world would work instantaneously. Praying, meditation – fine. But just follow the Golden Rule and the whole world works. Making the world work could be that simple.”
— Eddie Izzard

I'd say 'nice bloke' but I can't even do that ironically. He's just a gigantic bellend with a god complex.

It's time for Eddie Izzard to butt out of the EU debate

In Westminster, the word is that the Remain camp are going to use Farage as their secret weapon over the coming weeks, arguing that we ought not to let his vision – allegedly Little England rather than Great Britain – triumph in just under a fortnight’...

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/editorials/if-he-wants-remain-to-prevail-eddie-izzard-needs-to-stay-out-of-the-eu-referendum-debate-a7074716.html

bringbacktheladiesloos · 04/10/2023 19:47

Well that was just a load of old rambling. He really reckons himself doesn't he? Going for the easy Brighton seat. He's really not got anything to say.

He's going back to recycle his old material because he hasn't got anything new. He's just not funny any more.

I think he's going to go 'full circle' by getting only one laugh at his new tour which he reminisced about as if to say 'wow they really didn't realise how great I was'. Erm, or maybe they were right the first time and we all just got distracted by your amusing learning French anecdote. Which I guess you'll be recycling.

MariePaperRoses · 04/10/2023 19:51

Eddie Izzard adjusting his cock in public whilst waiting in the queue for the ladies toilet -

Eddie Izzard interview with Salon
JanesLittleGirl · 04/10/2023 19:51

And there is a rule in every major religion, called the Golden Rule. Essentially: treat other people the way you’d like to be treated yourself.

Unless their tastes are different. Like Sleazy Lizard.

RealityFan · 04/10/2023 20:01

MariePaperRoses · 04/10/2023 19:51

Eddie Izzard adjusting his cock in public whilst waiting in the queue for the ladies toilet -

I can't think of any well known personality who would be ignored as he was in this photo.
I say ignored, actually it's the opposite, studious avoidance.

This picture tells a million words. All of them uncomplimentary to Izzard.

ArabellaScott · 04/10/2023 20:04

RedToothBrush · 04/10/2023 19:05

Why tiptoe around?

During the referendum managed to upset fellow Remainers with his behaviour.

It was aggressive, intimidating and confrontational. It was ranty and incoherent. It was disrespectful and rude. It was just NASTY.

Many were actively stating they were embarrassed he was on 'their side' and some even expressed the opinion that he made them want to consider voting for Brexit!

That's not even on this subject.

The man has a problem. His behaviour is not normal and it actively upsets others.

Because threads about Eddie often don't last long.

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RedToothBrush · 04/10/2023 20:20

ArabellaScott · 04/10/2023 20:04

Because threads about Eddie often don't last long.

What because we repost editorials and links to the mass media about how Izzard has a reputation for being incoherent, irrational, anti-science and demonstrating an ego the size of a small planet?

It's pretty incredible if just signposting to a point that's been made repeatedly in the past that has nothing to do with being trans and everything to do with form for spouting utter bollocks and being a total hypocrite.

If it was a niche, unfair or controversial point of view maybe there'd be reason but honestly it's really not.

Carry on as you were.

ArabellaScott · 04/10/2023 20:33

I agree, Red. 😂

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MassiveWordSalad · 04/10/2023 20:51

To be fair to Eddie this is what you get when you Google foetal development Confused

The very first hit talks about 'assigned sex' for fuck's sake.

Eddie Izzard interview with Salon
BlessedKali · 04/10/2023 20:59

IN THE FETUS. My god. I don't even have words for the absolute stupidity....

BlessedKali · 04/10/2023 21:01

this is what you get when men who give absolutely ZERO SHITS about women, try to talk about our reproductive mechanisms...
... idiocy, because they had no interest up until about 5 seconds before they realised they could twist the truth to work to their advantage.