‘Dilation day two ….

[RudsyFarmer]

……. let's play. Where in an airport can I locate a clean, dry, private place I can lie down, take my knickers off and spread my legs?'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12535827/Transgender-ex-Labour-MSP-Heather-Herbert-disabled-toilet-Gatwick-Airport.html

They are no words are there?

The more I read and think about this case the more incredibly disturbing it seems (to anyone, not just GC people and people who have been maintaining high critical awareness of this kind of thing). I hope it will be one of the things that finally breaks the TRA camel's back, given how extreme and ridiculous (and frankly disgusting) it is

Suly no-one anywhere can believe that posting selfies of oneself performing intimate care after surgery, whether in a public loo or anywhere, is in any way norma or acceptable, if you have any personal dignity whatsoever? That's before you even consider what we now know, which is that there was in fact a changing space at LGW where this man could have used had he really needed or even wanted to do a bit of wound care. There was zero need for him to draw attention to this moment. Except, oh, of course there was...

Where are all the TRAs defending this? Rather silent it seems. I would imagine they must be rather cross with this ridiculous chap (not that they could ever admit it).

Could you turn your thinking volume down a touch! It's very very loud!

I think this individual is doing sterling work for #OperationLetThemSpeak 🙌

I do wonder sometimes if we have some moles in their camp...

Maybe the MRAs who’d normally be defending this man are all on Twitter, applauding Herbert’s stunning bravery?

Does seem odd there aren’t any. Might they actually agree that this is indefensible and repulsive behaviour and “not in keeping with our values”?

Herbert is claiming on X that LGW security told him to use the disabled loo for his “medical necessity”.

And yet Googling lgw facilities for medical needs would have told him exactly where to go …

Given the prominent positioning of the sanitary disposal bin in his photo, I’m sure the disabled loo was adequate for his purpose on this occasion. He can almost imagine he’s in the real women’s toilets as he looks at his pictures over and over again. It’s a shame for him there weren’t loads of women in there, lying spreadeagled on the floor taking selfies to post on social media to validate his peculiar view of womanly behaviour.

Grown a moustache, works in mushrooms

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Would any woman who didn't absolutely have to because of fainting/ vomiting /extreme inebriation/ giving birth ever make contact with a public loo floor with any body part except her feet? Because women know how minging they are.

As someone who has been in all those situations and had to make use of a public loo floor on 3 of them- I absolutely would not have if there was an alternative! And I certainly wasn’t posting selfies on Twitter.

I think that next time he should just pop himself on the baggage carousel and crack on, so to speak.

I believe that would hasten the provision of a dedicated dilation suite.

Or, you know, just wait to do it in private because in this instance there was no rush…

Yes, but with more tie-dye.

I think to myself, what a wonderful gif.

I've just had a look at disable facilities at Gatwick.

There are three rooms for 'changing' ie rooms with an adjustable bed, hoist, washbasin.

A completely ideal place for 'dilation', but hey if they prefer a dirty floor.

No, I don't even put my bag on the floor. Most public toilets are grim.

This is still making me go 'BLEURGHHH'!

Why couldn't he just put a leg up on the toilet and do it like that? I'm sure youndont medically have to lie flat?

I couldn't careless if this person wants to lay on a toilet floor after major surgery, the thing that is annoying me is that it will be down to the NHS to cover the cost for treatment and antibiotics in a case of wound infection, surely anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that hygiene after surgery is paramount.

I foresee that this person will soon get used to 'taking knickers off and spreading legs' (ugh) if this is how they carry on.

And tbh, that expression is very 'male', not sure I have ever heard a woman use it.

And tbh, that expression is very 'male', not sure I have ever heard a woman use it.

Yes, it's really a standout feature, isn't it. All very porny and male centric.

It would appear, from the apparently rising porn genre, that very many men view women's toilets as sexual.

Ironic really that the mantra 'we just want to pee', is far more applicable to the women than the men.

If only!

He currently has 3 directorships in Manchester.

MANCHESTER IN COMMON PROJECTS AND GRANTS
MANCHESTER IN COMMON
MANCHESTER BUSINESS CO-OP

I wasn't being funny! He runs a project growing mushrooms. Also involved in those co ops including a housing co op.

I think this is bang on, actually.

Men use urinals when they just need to pee, so other than their morning poo, I think they probably see toilet cubicles as places to masturbate or have sex.

Personally I've never been able to get my head round it. Like joining the mile high club, yes, I get that there's a thrill to it, the idea that you might get caught sneaking out of the toilet with your sex partner, whatever, on an intellectual level I get it.

But on a personal, visceral level I'm just like, "That's gross. How can you possibly get turned on when you're crammed into a tiny and uncomfortable space where you'll be bashing your head and elbows on hard plastic all the time, surrounded by splashes of other people's pee, a sanitary bin full of used towels and tampons next to you and a scummy sink full of soap suds, toothpaste and saliva? All of this is objectively disgusting!"

But if men see toilet cubicles more as places to knock one out or have a quickie, and are less bothered by the hygiene angle, they probably don't even realise that most women see toilets as rather nasty places that you visit to do your business and then leave as quickly as possible. The idea that we are lying on the floor and spreading our legs in there is something that could really only occur in a male brain. (Do they think that's how we put tampons in?)

Considering that absolute nut who couldn't stop talking about his fantasy of showing little girls how to insert their tampons you're left wondering. Not to mention the social media groups for men slavering to get into cubicles after a woman's used it and ransack the sanpro bin in hope of finding a warm, wet tampon to shove up their bums for thrills.

😬

The more this particular group of men talk about what they do in women's spaces and the problems they have fixated around women's bodily functions, the more I think even having them in the men's spaces is too near for comfort, and I pity the decent blokes who aren't porn destroyed wrecks.

It's yet another argument against disposable sanpro, tbh. I don't put anything in sanitary bins anymore.