Asking someone’s pronouns is as important as finding out their name

[SamW98]

https://metro.co.uk/2023/09/13/talking-about-pronouns-isnt-a-chore-its-like-asking-someones-name-19491080/amp/

No it really isn’t. Does anyone really meet a new person in a social setting and say ‘hi I’m Doris and my pronouns are hee/haw, what’s your name and pronouns?

Same. Absolute fucking nonsense.

I know someone who helped to run a very woke event, filled with people who although they didn’t know each other, cared enough about a very niche activity (which actually relies heavily on open communication skills) to pay good money and spend a weekend doing it in small groups.

As well as name badges and pronoun badges they had to wear a colour code to denote their level of sociability at any time.

red : I don’t want to speak to anyone I don’t already know. Please don’t try to make social overtures to me as I might curl up on the floor and dissolve into a puddle of self pity

amber: I am happy to speak to people I already know, please respond to me if I speak to you because it means you are blessed and I think you are worthy of my attention until someone better comes along.

green: I am happy to speak to people. Do you see dead people too?

I mean, what happened to “ Lovely to meet you, I need to go and find my friend now”

Someone in my office has their enneagram number in their signature 😆

I googled. I should know better.

I love this😂

It was star signs in my yoof

I had to google ennagram too.
Can we do Myers Briggs types? I'm an ENTP.

I'm unreasonably irritated by the whole she/her mantra. Even if you buy into that shit you only need to say "she". We know how grammar works.

If you're a she/them or a neopet then fair enough I guess, but otherwise be succinct with your pseudo-religious genuflecting.

I was in a meeting with a couple of colleagues last week who are pronoun wankers, and listened to them talk about their non-binary pal he/him/hising all the way. The hypocritical arseholes.

I'm unreasonably irritated by the whole she/her mantra. Even if you buy into that shit you only need to say "she". We know how grammar works

I’m so glad to see you mention this! I started a thread about it ages ago and nobody else cared.

The red/amber/green sociability badges were introduced, and serve a valid purpose, for autistic people, to support them navigating challenging social situations.

More appropriation.

I hate pronouns and those who wave them about. We have a volunteer at our village community-owned shop. He starts every email with his pronouns. He's 60 something. He is balding and sports a full beard. He has a male name ,is married to a woman ( who never does the pronouns shite) and has 5 children. He's a bloody man. I have no idea why he needs to tell me he's a he/ him. It makes my lips curl whenever I see it written down

The aforementioned pronoun wankers have she/her/hers and he/him/his in their email signatures, because they're just THAT much of an ally. One more of an ally than other people.

How exclusionary of you to assume that grammar works the same way for everyone. Have you not seen pronoun demands declarations such as she/they?

I had to approach several divorce lawyers recently. One had she/her in their email so I deleted it immediately. No idea of their hourly rate or even if they were a shithot lawyer. Now if I had seen @AbacusAvocado s answer then they would have got the job 🐲(I have no dino emoji 😱)

Yup.

It's all grist to the mill, though. Gives them a chance to pass-ag correct each other and 'do better' and do some 'soul searching' into the error of their perfectly fucking bog standard human responses.

I find giving someone a death stare and showing my best resting bitch face works far better than a red badge fir severing the message ‘just fuck off and leave me alone’

Ooh I'm an INFJ, we would be enemies IRL 😂

ENTP? CF. FOTTFSOFATFOSM.

Having your pronouns just in your email signature is not good enough! Two handmaidens at work have them as part of their name too so when an email from the she/hers pops up in my inbox it appears as Ballcupping Brenda (She/Her) and I die a little inside.

Surely someone replying to an email would use ‘you’?

"The thing is:* *For most people, pronouns aren’t really something they think about. They’re just a part of language that we use when referring to people based on our outward perception of their gender."

Exactly (except that is is our perception of sex, not gender). They are not your pronouns, dear, when other people use them about you. Third person pronouns are their pronouns for you, based on their perception of you. When I was a kid, some people used nicknames for me. I didn’t always like a nickname, but it was not my name for me, it was their name for me, and though I could protest, I couldn’t control their speech.

Bob Sheer and Dave Heegham. And their enormoud families of wankers

You lot are dreadful- pronouns are very important, second only to knowing someone rising sign.

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