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BoreOfWhabylon · 15/09/2023 10:55

Documents detailing police communications before and during her last visit were obtained via FOI. They show the extent of police capture - the Insector in charge of the planning and policing of the event is a transwoman who is a leading light in Rainbow circles and a director of Auckland Rainbow Pride.

Simon Anderson (the man who filmed the 360 footage of the event, showing the full extent of the violence) obtained the documents and has them on his TwiX timeline
https://x.com/SimonRAnderson1/status/1702125388871475422?s=20
https://x.com/SimonRAnderson1/status/1702125609147867481?s=20
https://x.com/SimonRAnderson1/status/1702125784771817627?s=20

Poor Posie looks gutted but it's clearly not safe for her to go, even if they let her in.

https://x.com/SimonRAnderson1/status/1702125388871475422?s=20

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BoreOfWhabylon · 15/09/2023 10:56

I have to go out now, if someone would like to screenshot the docs that would be great

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RealityFan · 15/09/2023 11:00

Wow. Institutional capture, in real time, fully visible, in full view of everyone.

Evidence of the existential struggle of our times. I mean, how do you even begin to get to a place where this is reversed? How do you even start to remove the Japanese Knotweed of entrenched TRA in our institutions, the police no less?

Helleofabore · 15/09/2023 11:06

The fact that they knew and understood and yet didn't protect NZ women in that park shows just how poor the NZ Police are able to judge a volatile situation and act to provide women with safety.

It is a horrendous threat that now hangs over any women's group who wishes to meet publicly at a rally in New Zealand.

RoseslnTheHospital · 15/09/2023 11:10

I think sadly it's the right decision, right now, given the fact that the police cannot be in any way trusted to protect women in NZ. I expect that there will be a lot of cock a hoop reaction about this from her detractors, but I imagine she'll be working on other ways to make her presence felt.

Redshoeblueshoe · 15/09/2023 11:33

FFS

happydappy2 · 15/09/2023 11:38

There is something very wrong happening in our society at the moment....allowing males to gain legal recognition as women is causing many problems. They are different to women and cannot be allowed to muscle into our previously single sex spaces/sports/prisons etc. The sterilising of potentially gay children is absolutely conversion therapy-that so many politicians are blind to this fact is terrifying.

Boiledbeetle · 15/09/2023 11:40

We all knew what was going on behind the scenes but to see it actually there in black and white.

I don't blame her for not going. She was lucky to get out of there last time. I fear the odds would have been even more stacked against her this time.

Froodwithatowel · 15/09/2023 11:42

Invited by indigenous women to talk about women's rights and needs.

Slammed down by a lot of white men, with the power to control and enforce their personal religion on others. And who will witter righteously about how awful the racist and colonialist treatment of said indigenous women was, and how they identify as Much Much Better Than Other White Men Who Did That, And They're Doing It For Good Reasons Not Bad Ones.

Justme56 · 15/09/2023 11:53

I watched ‘Becoming Rhona’ about the TW involved and all I can say is KJK’s description is pretty accurate.

Hermittrismegistus · 15/09/2023 11:54

I'm glad she's not going. I stayed up to watched the live stream when she did go and I honestly thought I was about to watch her be murdered.

PriOn1 · 15/09/2023 12:12

So the person who was involved in the complete failure to organize an adequate police presence was also likely involved in organizing a 2000 person protest?

Wow.

Sounds negligent to me and the conflict of interest is crystal clear.

Fortunately Posy walked out unharmed and therefore probably has no claim but I wonder whether the woman or women who were injured would be able to make a claim against the police for their absolute failure to do their job.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 15/09/2023 14:03

Justme56 · 15/09/2023 11:53

I watched ‘Becoming Rhona’ about the TW involved and all I can say is KJK’s description is pretty accurate.

Here's Rhona
https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2018/03/becoming-rhona/

Becoming Rhona

Rhona Stace faced a decades long wait for gender reassignment surgery in New Zealand. So she travelled to Thailand to become the woman she is today.

https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2018/03/becoming-rhona/

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MummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking · 15/09/2023 14:17

I watched the live stream too, absolutely horrifying.

No doubt the NZ TRAs will be crowing, but really? Proof the police knew what was happening and did fuck all until the literal last minute? They were meant to stand in a line and protect the women from the get go, like fuck they did. And look who had a hand in it all eh?

All this shows is that the level of violence against women and the institutional capture of the police means that women who refuse to submit are no longer safe in that country. They would go harder at her next time, and any nutter with a weapon could approach her and do her harm, and know the police will stand back and watch it happen, or at the very least not reach her in time to protect her. I wouldn't be crowing about that.

FannyCann · 15/09/2023 14:29

The live stream was terrifying - it must have been awful for KJK's family back home if they were watching.

Also I recall she said that when she was removed to the police station, and held there for her safety until they took her to the airport, it was all kept secret so the minimum number of people knew where she was for her safety. Perhaps that was because the police looking after her knew there were others in the force who couldn't be relied on to protect her? (I'm putting that politely).

Lottapianos · 15/09/2023 14:32

It's an appalling state of affairs, but good for her for putting her own safety first. Honestly, there would be less uproar if she was a Holocaust denier. Hordes of idiots trying to literally 'burn the witch' for stating biological facts and putting women and girls first, and the police just shrug. It's beyond ridiculous

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 15/09/2023 15:41

I'm relieved.

I saw the livestream and I thought I was going to witness a woman being lynched.

She could go as a giant fuck you, but, why? That paperwork is powerful - the police would have allowed a lynching.

RavingStone · 15/09/2023 16:02

Fucking hell.
Poor women of New Zealand.

Clymene · 15/09/2023 16:16

New Zealand is not a safe country for women

DewinDwl · 15/09/2023 16:38

Wow. So the security cock up was deliberate.

dimorphism · 15/09/2023 16:47

Wait, what?

So the biological male who was in charge of / involved with policing the event was also part of the counter protest i.e. the people threatening and committing violence against women (including fracturing a 70 year old woman's skull)?

If this is true, then it's levels of anti-woman action I'd expect from police in Afghanistan or Iran but not NZ. Well, not before now.

She's absolutely right not to go back. She could be killed. It was honestly quite obvious from the event that the policing was completely inadequate. Now we see that was probably deliberate. They didn't care if women got hurt.

Compare and contrast the policing at Belfast LWS. Honestly someone should do a video edit of the policing there and the policing in NZ to fully show the shame and misogyny of New Zealand. It's not bloody rocket science. They're deliberately doing things that are likely to result in harm to women.

I hope the woman whose skull was fractured sues.

ArabeIIaScott · 15/09/2023 17:12

Helleofabore · 15/09/2023 11:06

The fact that they knew and understood and yet didn't protect NZ women in that park shows just how poor the NZ Police are able to judge a volatile situation and act to provide women with safety.

It is a horrendous threat that now hangs over any women's group who wishes to meet publicly at a rally in New Zealand.

'didn't protect' imo is a huge understatement.

They knew what would happen.

They knowingly and deliberately abandoned women to a frenzied mob of violent men.

The police are complicit.

ArabeIIaScott · 15/09/2023 17:17

'In my opinion, what you are looking at is the NZ Police actively conspiring with the rainbow community, and looking the other way when they beat the pulp out of women and the elderly, and congratulating themselves for doing so after the fact.'

That actually makes me feel sick.

NZ women, I'm so very, very sorry.

LizaBizza · 15/09/2023 17:39

Heartwarming to see NZ strongly saying no to homophobia and transphobia.

The UK is far behind, but it will get there.

RoseslnTheHospital · 15/09/2023 17:41

How is KJK deciding, for her own safety, not to go to NZ the same as NZ saying no to homophobia and transphobia??

You seem pleased @LizaBizza that women are not safe in NZ if they dare to hold and speak opinions that differ from those in charge of policing.

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