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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Let women speak-Dublin Sept 16th

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KnittingDiva · 07/09/2023 14:35

Anyone else on here planning to attend this?

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IcakethereforeIam · 17/09/2023 21:22

Or taken into custardy?

DialSquare · 17/09/2023 21:34

I had syrup sponge with custard earlier today (out for lunch). I could happily eat it again now.

And I've got the Roobarb and Custard theme tune in my head now for some reason.

RealFeminist · 17/09/2023 21:36

THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDIN

Igneococcus · 17/09/2023 22:02

THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDIN

Is that what you told the police?

JanesLittleGirl · 17/09/2023 22:04

IcakethereforeIam · 17/09/2023 20:35

I don't have a leader, if that's okay with Datun that is.

Oh. I thought you were the leader.

JanesLittleGirl · 17/09/2023 22:11

Actually, I suspect that @LizaBizza is trying to mount a coup to grab control.

I hope that she realises how much cake, biscuits and decent dry white wine (not to mention tea and cheese, but not together) she will need to be able to maintain control.

MavisMcMinty · 17/09/2023 22:12

She?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/09/2023 22:13

I highly doubt.

MavisMcMinty · 17/09/2023 22:15

I hate to think there are real women who’d so passionately defend men’s rights activists at the expense of their own biological sex.

RealityFan · 17/09/2023 22:17

JanesLittleGirl · 17/09/2023 22:11

Actually, I suspect that @LizaBizza is trying to mount a coup to grab control.

I hope that she realises how much cake, biscuits and decent dry white wine (not to mention tea and cheese, but not together) she will need to be able to maintain control.

I don't think she passes the application form process, let alone the interview.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/09/2023 22:21

hate to think there are real women who’d so passionately defend men’s rights activists at the expense of their own biological sex.

There absolutely are, but I think there are certain tells.

Boiledbeetle · 17/09/2023 22:21

Helleofabore · 17/09/2023 21:12

By the way, did you all see that I spent a couple of hours watching a guy from Oz splice together some different footage from the Melbourne rally, that makes it pretty clear that the neo Nazis were there to support the other group who had a permit to protest that day? The lead nazi declared they were never Allie’s of the Let Women Speak group but were part of the other group and part of their decision was because they wanted to force the Liberal Party to do something about Moira.

That was some other falsehood that Bizza tried to make out had any credibility on their thread. It is quite underhanded dishonest isn’t it, to post such falsehoods in the aim of a gotcha… they have been doing it all over threads, along with slurs and denigrating women and making defamatory remarks.

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no, ive been pretending to be busy doing things so missed that. im liking the community notes though!!

LizaBizza · 17/09/2023 22:54

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BlessedKali · 17/09/2023 22:58

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at a conpletely random event on the other side of the world, put in by unverifiable people.

what in THE FUCK has that got to do with anyone here... oh yes, nothing.

its amazing that that is maybe the only peice of actual violent/hate speech you can find against trans people. Meanwhile we could give you a huge list of all the violent threats made against women by trans-activists.

ArabeIIaScott · 17/09/2023 22:58

https://terfisaslur.com/

LizaBizza · 17/09/2023 22:58

"what in THE FUCK has that got to do with anyone here"

You and here are "gender criticals", correct?

LizaBizza · 17/09/2023 22:59

"Meanwhile we could give you a huge list of all the violent threats made against women by trans-activists"

ok. Let's start with the threats your Graham Linehan has made against both cis and trans women shall we?

FemaleAndLearning · 17/09/2023 23:00

I was at Let Women Speak Dublin. Flew over from UK as we heard Irish women were really scared. They thanked us for coming. Met some on the way to the square bring escorted and they walked with us. In the crowd many had come with their husband because they were so frightened.

Best policing I've ever seen and I've been to Brighton, Manchester, Nottingham, Cardiff, Glasgow, Birmingham, Portsmouth and London. Proper crowd barriers on the transactivists side along with a dead zone.

The crowds were evenly matched. I suspect many women didn't come through fear and the fear if being recognised.

Graham arrived the crowd cheered.
Kellie arrived the crowd cheered louder!

We could hear! Free speech does include the right to be heard. The trans supporters were loud and had a loud speakers and a megaphone. Mostly it was a bloke screaming chants:
Posie parker is a fascist
Nazi scum off our streets
Trans rights now
You've got fascists on your side
Trans rights are men's rights (we are pretty sure this was the chant).
But mostly we could hear quite well.

The women who spoke were amazing. Helen Joyce kicked off briefly. A lesbian who was shaking and in tears, The countess who spoke about mother's and babies, a woman talking about her sexual abuse from age 7 (whilst the morons danced to music unaware if that was being said). Irish women are amazing they are warriors. The teenage girl who wrote and spoke her poem I am not a dress at Belfast spoke and did a funny song. Wow to have that much courage at 15. She was upset that some of her teachers were on the trans side.

I didn't realise that Self ID clipped in without any debate. Consultation and debate is urgently required.

There were more men than usual. They were asked to stand at the back. I had no idea who they were. I guess a lot were male relatives. They were quiet and they listened. The most intrusive men were from the Press.

The trans soviet flags disturbed me. The Bear Pride flag was creepy. This mammies for trans kids are bewildering.

My only gripe was that both groups were penned in. The beauty of the didn't us catching passer boys giving them a leaflet and having conversations but that opportunity was lost due to.the police keeping us safe.

A transactivist walked freely around our side with a patronising sign. Noone was bothered. Noone confronted him, abused him or assaulted him. We read his sign and got back to listening. Imagine if one if us had done that we would have been chewed up and spat out.

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BlessedKali · 17/09/2023 23:01

LizaBizza · 17/09/2023 22:58

"what in THE FUCK has that got to do with anyone here"

You and here are "gender criticals", correct?

'gender-critical' is a concept, an idea. it's perspective. It's not club.

How old are you? how do you have such a bizarre way of looking at the world. Do you always go around lumping people into categories and then judging them by it? that's called PREDUJICED by the way.

MavisMcMinty · 17/09/2023 23:02

Give it up, @LizaBizza - it’s a school night, you should be in bed and your parents should have taken your phone away hours ago.

BlessedKali · 17/09/2023 23:03

yes quite, the reality is im possibly arguing with a 14 year old on the internet... haha who is the fool really then?!.... me, most likely

LizaBizza · 17/09/2023 23:04

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Waitwhat23 · 17/09/2023 23:04

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Even the anti woman account you've linked states that the microphone was immediately taken off that person and the women present were visibly and audibly shocked.

Whereas signs held at anti woman demonstrations which state 'decapitate terfs' and which politicians endorse while smirking, are handwaved away as 'just a joke' and 'well, they deserve violence anyway' by TRA's.

LizaBizza · 17/09/2023 23:06

"Even the anti woman account you've linked..."

I've had a look and don't see anything "anti woman" on their twitter feed? Or is "anti woman" just a generic slur you use against anyone who doesn't hate trans people?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/09/2023 23:13

ok. Let's start with the threats your Graham Linehan has made against both cis and trans women shall we?

Go on. I promise you whatever you think Glinner has said it's dwarfed by the threats all the nasty misogynistic men in your movement, of whatever identity, have made towards women who want female only spaces occasionally.