Wyoming sorority have lost

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This report says the women who sued the sorority for letting in a transwoman have lost.

https://reason.com/volokh/2023/08/25/8246820/

It might depend on the sorority, but I think they would be able to move out the following year or semester if they're lucky into university accomodation if there is space for them, and continue to be part of the organisation. Of course it's a shame because that's not what they wanted.

The original article was appalling, he would do things like sit in the back of their yoga sessions and just watch, and ask them all sorts of intimate questions about their private parts, etc etc. And not that it really matters but apparently he didn't even try to look like a woman which makes the original premise of letting him in even more ridiculous, by the logic used.

I don’t know, but it’s occurred to me that female swimmers on US university teams probably can’t refuse to compete against TW if they’re on a scholarship. Their university funding presumably depends on them fulfilling the conditions of their sports scholarship.

female swimmers on US university teams probably can’t refuse to compete against TW if they’re on a scholarship. Their university funding presumably depends on them fulfilling the conditions of their sports scholarship.

Yes. This is 100 percent true. US colleges and universities are also very expensive

Women need to vote with their feet. Leave this guy in a sorority of one.

Yes...yes it is. As you are referring to transwomen as men. Many would contend that to be a bigoted position.

What makes these men women then? Please do explain how they are women.

Those that do so need to reacquaint themselves with the definition of bigoted

Is it religious bigotry to say, "I don't believe Jesus was the son of any god"?

Is it racial bigotry to say, "I don't believe Rachael Dolezal should be considered Black"?

Is it ethnic bigotry to say, "I don't believe you should claim Osag tribal status when ancestry.com says you have .01% Native American DNA but your entire family grew up thinking you were all Dutch"?

Is it ideological bigotry to say, "Flat Earth belief is demonstrably false"?

And, as any biologist will explain, human sexual reproduction is binary. We only have male and female humans. Even the minority of humans with DSD don't change the reality that humans are a 2-sex species, like most of all life, and absolutely all mammals.

If trans people claim to be a woman, they either don't agree with the majority on what that word means or they are wrong. They are not who they say they are. And this is very easy to prove.

"Bigoted" to call a man a man? I am so tired of this shit.

My mini dictionary:
Bigotry -> heresy
Educate yourself -> repent
Terf -> witch!

Jeez. that is bloody awful. Does nobody give a shit?

As a sorority alumna (not this one), this makes my blood boil.

And more on this sorority. Two of the women from the alumni have spoken on Fox News. But it seems 450 past alumni have signed up to support the challenging of the alumni’s definition of woman, and ultimately male inclusion, by filing a brief in the case.

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6342885849112

https://www.iwf.org/2023/11/09/kappa-kappa-gamma-sorority-retaliates-against-alumnae-for-standing-up-for-women-revokes-lifetime-membership-after-50-years-of-sisterhood/

Kappa Kappa Gamma (“Kappas”) is known for being a sorority of rich girls. Their reputation varies from campus to campus, but they are universally considered top-tier. Maybe because of the money they bring with them, their houses tend to be one of the nicest on campus. However, many consider Kappas materialistic. Members have a reputation for hunting down other trust-fund kids to marry—something that they probably don’t have much difficulty doing since they are also considered cute or pretty by most.

And: https://www.tumblr.com/uscgreekinsider/159838760275/usc-kappa-reputation

So that is the reason this male individual wanted to be there? Because the reputation for them being very attractive women?

From one of the articles it sounded like the powers that be just wanted the publicity of having the first non binary "sister," so they were prob the only one that would take him. They even waived the GPA requirements.

The summaries of KKG above show that this is an organisation with significant status and power that can well afford to adopt luxury beliefs like Artemis Langford being a sorority sister.

@nauticant just wondering what the significance of the sorority info is?

Hopefully you're just adding context and hope you don't mean that girls with a reputation of good looks, wealth and cattiness in some way aren't worthy of our support? (Cross post - thanks for clarification 😊)

No worries. I realised just before your post that some context would be helpful.

Girls tend not to be hiding an erection.

Either way, they have pissed off one of their influential past alumni (ie she was senior in the alumni) who is rallying up the others.

I suspect that this will be a very well publicised case and that funding perhaps might end up being something that will end up influencing this policy's future.

I wonder if being a very wealthy sorority they assumed that their men with gender wouldnt be a threat? If any man with gender couldve been a house mate, they might have thought twice about the new definition of woman.

And this is the problem. The expectation of symmetry. A girl sitting watching other girls, with a pillow on her lap is unremarkable

This reminds me of the Sheffield hospital employment tribunal, where the single point the EJ found in favour of the MTF plaintiff was that it was discriminatory for the manager to ask if the MTF were planning to undress in the female changing room, "because she wouldn't have asked a non trans woman". Which is clearly the whole point of it, it's not actually the same thing, because males should not be in female only space.

Do you think it is bigoted not to actually believe that trans women are women, or is it bigoted not to be willing to pretend that they are?