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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Nursery have asked if my 4 month old is non binary.

129 replies

Jamtartforme · 10/08/2023 15:00

Filling in paperwork for my son to start in the baby room in a few month’s time and the question is as follows:

Child Gender: Male / Female / Non binary

This is a form for children aged 3 months to 4 years.

I’ve asked my baby whether he feels comfortable in the sex he was born as but he declined to answer and then vomited on me…

Seriously though, should I challenge this? It seems absurd.

OP posts:
Sleeepdeprived · 10/08/2023 20:23

My DS’s nursery asked whether he was male, female, or ‘other’ and also his for preferred pronouns!

I was so tempted to not send him there but it’s my only option. Fucking mental.

VinEtFromage · 10/08/2023 20:23

loislovesstewie · 10/08/2023 17:38

I really have no words. Is there a space ship leaving soon?

@loislovesstewie save me a seat & I'll bring the snacks!!

IhaveanewTVnow · 10/08/2023 20:28

SinnerBoy · 10/08/2023 16:40

Like an earlier poster, I'd cross out Gender and write: Sex: Male.

This. You get asked this once they are at school from the county council and I was always crossing out gender.

Sleeepdeprived · 10/08/2023 20:29

For the non-believers…

The world has gone mad.

Nursery have asked if my 4 month old is non binary.
Floppe · 10/08/2023 20:39

I suppose if they didn’t answer then.. non-binary? Presumably you can update it if necessary. I think the vomiting was probably unrelated.

ResisterRex · 10/08/2023 20:41

Sleeepdeprived · 10/08/2023 20:29

For the non-believers…

The world has gone mad.

Shock
WearyLady · 10/08/2023 20:41

Since the form includes Due Date for not yet born children, there should also be an option for gender 'not yet known'. This could then be used for any child, born or yet to be born.

beadiebea · 10/08/2023 21:13

Had this on the form registering my baby at the GP, did make me laugh considering she was only a week old!

Nursery have asked if my 4 month old is non binary.
PandaExpress · 11/08/2023 01:22

I hate this so much! I took my 10 year old to a holiday club recently, that had the same boxes. I ticked the correct sex box, then put a big X across the entire gender section. When I handed it back I said "I'm not filling that part in because it's pathetic and she's a child" The only way this madness will end is if the 99% of us who aren't crackers, speak out against it. I bet nearly every other parent at that nursery feels the same way as you.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 11/08/2023 01:34

Florissante · 10/08/2023 15:05

I know how your baby feels. I always want to vomit when I'm asked if I'm male, female or non-binary.

I laughed but this is true!

DifficultBloodyWoman · 11/08/2023 01:36

beadiebea · 10/08/2023 21:13

Had this on the form registering my baby at the GP, did make me laugh considering she was only a week old!

What can we expect when the form is labeled ‘your child details’ instead of ‘child’s’? 🙄

DifficultBloodyWoman · 11/08/2023 01:41

Fordian · 10/08/2023 19:52

Dear Prospective Parent/s.
Welcome blah blah blah.

You will notice our registration form asks the sex of your baby. This statistic is required by law.

We do not ask your child's gender identity.

All children will be afforded the same care and opportunity in order to explore their world. We do not believe in categorising people into identities such as genders. This is for the child to explore in their own time, at their own pace, not for any of us to impose.

I hope you share our value; look forward to blah blah blah.

🤷🏻‍♀️

If I received a letter like that, my child would almost certainly be sent to that school.

royalwatch · 11/08/2023 07:53

Circle non binary and write WTAF!! Next
To it

MagpiePi · 11/08/2023 07:56

PurBal · 10/08/2023 16:21

I had to answer if my son identified with the sex he was assigned at birth when I registered him at the GP. Online form and mandatory response was required, I couldn’t leave it blank or write anything it, just tick yes or no. He was less than a week old. Made me feel really uncomfortable.

WTAF??

Awittyfool · 11/08/2023 09:27

Fordian · 10/08/2023 19:52

Dear Prospective Parent/s.
Welcome blah blah blah.

You will notice our registration form asks the sex of your baby. This statistic is required by law.

We do not ask your child's gender identity.

All children will be afforded the same care and opportunity in order to explore their world. We do not believe in categorising people into identities such as genders. This is for the child to explore in their own time, at their own pace, not for any of us to impose.

I hope you share our value; look forward to blah blah blah.

🤷🏻‍♀️

Great letter Fordian.

Maybe the Op could show this to the nursery manager to explain why “gender” is a retrograde idea for a registration form.

RunningUpThatBuilding · 11/08/2023 13:14

beadiebea · 10/08/2023 21:13

Had this on the form registering my baby at the GP, did make me laugh considering she was only a week old!

ARGH! The “assigned at birth” phrase annoys me no end! The medical professionals did not have a big think and ”decide”. They simply acknowledged biological reality!

I don’t think I could let that pas without comment!

horseymum · 11/08/2023 13:17

I usually put other and say my child has no gender identity, sex is female and no pronoun badges etc to be worn. This is for young teens going on music camps etc. And insist the accomodation is single sex.

Busubaba · 11/08/2023 13:21

I would insist they remove that option otherwise I would be taking my child elsewhere.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 11/08/2023 13:28

Safeguarding issue to ask about a child’s sexuality or identity, surely?

Have they not read Piaget? How can the child have these feelings at that developmental stage?

assume they are idiots who know nothing about children and find a nursery who lets them be a dog or a Digger or a superhero

Islandermummy · 12/08/2023 03:54

Just circle "male" and carry on living your life?

SunRainStorm · 12/08/2023 04:31

Islandermummy · 12/08/2023 03:54

Just circle "male" and carry on living your life?

This.

I'm sick of posts of people getting their knickers in a twist over forms.

Presumably it's the one form for the whole nursery, including older children, who may have parents that support them in being non binary.

Do you get upset about every option on a form that doesn't apply to you? Or just answer it and carry on with your day?

OldCrone · 12/08/2023 05:15

Presumably it's the one form for the whole nursery, including older children, who may have parents that support them in being non binary.

The children are all male or female though, which is the only important consideration. And the OP said it was a form for children up to 4 years old.

What do you think is different about a child who claims to be non binary? And how does a parent "support them in being non binary"? They all have a sex. What's the point of pretending that they don't?

PurpleGreenandWhiteAreTheNewPrimaryColours · 12/08/2023 05:21

6WeekCountdown · 10/08/2023 16:35

🤣 circle non-binary and roll with it, see what happens 😆 maybe it's just me who would find it hard to resist. They are batshit.

This is what I'd do

My guess is they'd do nothing, it's there on the form for the sake of wokeness

NotBadConsidering · 12/08/2023 05:32

SunRainStorm · 12/08/2023 04:31

This.

I'm sick of posts of people getting their knickers in a twist over forms.

Presumably it's the one form for the whole nursery, including older children, who may have parents that support them in being non binary.

Do you get upset about every option on a form that doesn't apply to you? Or just answer it and carry on with your day?

This is dangerous nonsense that teaches children they don’t have a sex, can altered their bodies if they’re not happy with them with lifelong consequences. There is no such thing as a benign, matters-not form in any instance in our current society. Social transition is an invasive act, that leads to a cascade of intervention. It should be challenged at every single step, in every single instance, in every single setting, no exception.

People like you allowing this insidious creep of ideology are partly to blame for why so many children are seeking to transition. “Doesn’t affect my life, so why should I care?” Everyone should care.

Beginningless · 12/08/2023 05:33

I had this at my child’s nursery and challenged it via an anonymous feedback survey, an option if you don’t feel comfortable. Haven’t seen any evidence it’s been taken on board though.