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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie Parker on Jordan Peterson

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hamstersarse · 04/08/2023 11:04

Just watched this this morning - best to watch on Twitter / X as it is uncensored. I imagine YT have taken it down already.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1687161393227710474

It is a pretty fun interview and JP really unleashes his views on trans ideology - calling it out for what it really is with no holding back at all! He gives no shits at all about what he says, she seems more humble and less combative, but it makes for an engaging conversation.

I must have missed one thing KJK mentions on the podcast - Fake men getting jobs doing bra fittings - is that a thing? Has that happened?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1687161393227710474

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BettyFilous · 04/08/2023 14:12

It’s been mentioned on here before there was a TW (MTF) bra fitter at one of the London M&S branches, possibly Marble Arch.

MalcolmTuckersBollockingface · 04/08/2023 15:37

I listened to the podcast episode, in all it's unvarnished glory, on Spotify. The only snag with that is that it is audio.

2Rebecca · 04/08/2023 17:17

That was really interesting. The first 10 minutes I was less keen on but it warmed up and hot interesting although Peterson could have discussed where all the fathers of people wanting to change gender were. I wasn't keen on the blame the mothers bit although often mothers are far keener on pushing gender changes on their children to get social kudos than the fathers

2Rebecca · 04/08/2023 18:55

Interesting that the You Tube video which is about 1/3 the length omitted the Dylan ?Mullany/ Suzie Green/ Jazz Jennings references and the high incidence of BPD in mothers of trans children

namitynamechange · 04/08/2023 19:02

2Rebecca · 04/08/2023 17:17

That was really interesting. The first 10 minutes I was less keen on but it warmed up and hot interesting although Peterson could have discussed where all the fathers of people wanting to change gender were. I wasn't keen on the blame the mothers bit although often mothers are far keener on pushing gender changes on their children to get social kudos than the fathers

In fairness I think munchausens by proxy (which this whole thing reminds me of) IS something that skews heavily towards females. Sexual assault, murder, paraphilias etc etc are all male. But faking illness in your small child is fortunately rare but much more likely to be women when it happens.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 04/08/2023 19:23

BettyFilous · 04/08/2023 14:12

It’s been mentioned on here before there was a TW (MTF) bra fitter at one of the London M&S branches, possibly Marble Arch.

The individual concerned outed themselves by posting on here many years ago to tell us all about their job. I think the thread was eventually deleted but to those of us who read it, it explained M & S's subsequent enthusiasm for men in women's lingerie changing rooms.

MalagaNights · 04/08/2023 20:12

I was a disappointed with Kellie's conveying of some of the issues e.g why tw as bra fitters is not acceptable.
I thought JP had to do a lot of the filling with explanations.
I was also left feeling that I wouldn't like Kellie much: 'I'm always right' and 'I haven't got friends'.
Little self reflection.

But it made me think only someone like her could be doing what she's doing and achieved what she has, and thank goodness for that.

In the extra half hour on the Daily Wire she talks about being a mother and how much she loves this and how it changed her which I enjoyed. I've seen so much anti motherhood sentiment lately so this was quite refreshing.

PomegranateOfPersephone · 04/08/2023 20:17

When I click on the link, it tells me something went wrong? Has it been removed?

BlessedKali · 04/08/2023 20:52

probably. apparantly the helen joyce interview with Peterson got removed, so this one was likely. i imagine he cut it down in order not to piss youtube off too much.

I really like Jordan Peterson but felt that he was not the one to interview KJK. She would have been better on something like Joe Rogan, where her humour and candidness would have shined, in a more relaxed conversation setting...

thenightsky · 04/08/2023 20:54

Link doesn't work. I think its been removed.

PonyPatter44 · 04/08/2023 21:03

2Rebecca · 04/08/2023 18:55

Interesting that the You Tube video which is about 1/3 the length omitted the Dylan ?Mullany/ Suzie Green/ Jazz Jennings references and the high incidence of BPD in mothers of trans children

@2Rebecca could you elaborate on this, or chuck us a link or two? I absolutely don't disbelieve you, it's just something that rings a bell in my own extended family and I'd like to read more.

BlessedKali · 04/08/2023 21:21

In the conversation Jordan Peterson has with Posie, he mentions that there is strong evidence that shows mothers of 'trans children' are very likely to be BPD (and by this I assume he means mothers that have encouraged this within their children, not worried mothers of ROGD girls). he doesn',t give any references but I'm sure you can find it.

2Rebecca · 04/08/2023 23:14

The Twitter link to the 90 min broadcast still works for me

2Rebecca · 04/08/2023 23:16

The bit on mothers with bpd being over represented amongst transitioning children is near the end. He doesnt give a reference but say studies/ evidence I don't remember exact wording shows this

Langsdestiny · 04/08/2023 23:18

Oh I thought it was an excellent interview. I thought his discussion of rape was so unusual to hear from a man that it took my breath away.

BlessedKali · 05/08/2023 22:09

I think JP absolutely amazing. He speaks with such clarity and intelligence. He is so evidence based that he offends people when the evidence offends their world view, feminists included

Needanewnamebeingwatched · 06/08/2023 08:23

It's gone?

Langsdestiny · 06/08/2023 11:32

It's been such a kick in the teeth really that men from the left have embraced this, I think despite the fact that he holds some views I dont agree with JP likes women much more than some I could name, waves to Jolyon Maughan, etc.

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