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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Barbie Kardashian has been transferred to a male prison

49 replies

ColinRobinsonsFart · 03/08/2023 16:49

About bloody time too!

www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/barbie-kardashian-transferred-male-prison-30614173

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Oatycookies · 03/08/2023 18:12

Never heard of this case but just read the article now

“She also remains under a garda investigation over allegations that she threatened to rape female prison officers after she refused orders to clean up the shower area when she had used it.
Female staff at the prison did not feel safe with her presence either.”

Wth 😧poor staff

DisquietintheRanks · 03/08/2023 18:13

I find it hard to celebrate the end of something that should neet have happened in the first place. Wtf were they thinking? Not about women that's for sure.

DisquietintheRanks · 03/08/2023 18:16

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Really? You think he should be "correctively" raped? Seems to me that he's seen a significant amount if damage in his life already.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 03/08/2023 18:17

What about the other male prisoner in Limerick women's prison? Has that person been moved too?

While it is excellent that BK has been moved, I'm not convinced it's much of a win. The move is due to the threat to staff, not the sex of BK. I don't think BK being moved has any implications for other males with a GRC who wish to be housed in a women's prison.

Oatycookies · 03/08/2023 18:19

Absolutely horrific, once I read this story I knew an abusive childhood was likely involved and it’s the stuff of nightmares. This child was so badly traumatised and failed. No parent protected them.

Agree with poster above re. Father should be in jail.

AvidMerrian · 03/08/2023 18:25

She also remains under a garda investigation over allegations that she threatened to rape female prison officers after she refused orders to clean up the shower area when she had used it.

used it such delicate language.

His father is in prison (noting that correct-sexing of convicted sexual offenders is allowed)

AnSolas · 03/08/2023 18:27

Oatycookies · 03/08/2023 18:12

Never heard of this case but just read the article now

“She also remains under a garda investigation over allegations that she threatened to rape female prison officers after she refused orders to clean up the shower area when she had used it.
Female staff at the prison did not feel safe with her presence either.”

Wth 😧poor staff

Sadly the more threats/attacks on staff that are proven in court the safer the general public will be

AnSolas · 03/08/2023 18:39

OchonAgusOchonOh · 03/08/2023 18:17

What about the other male prisoner in Limerick women's prison? Has that person been moved too?

While it is excellent that BK has been moved, I'm not convinced it's much of a win. The move is due to the threat to staff, not the sex of BK. I don't think BK being moved has any implications for other males with a GRC who wish to be housed in a women's prison.

The one in since 2019 would be 4 years to a 6 ½ year term so likey out?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40234322.html

The other was in since 2021 for a total 2 but 1 in jail so out by now

https://dublingazette.com/dublinlocalmatters/courts/trans-woman-jailed-for-a-year-after-pub-fight/

Transgender sex offender appeals severity of sentence

National and local court and crime reports

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40234322.html

LakeTiticaca · 03/08/2023 18:51

Pretty sure the rest of the lags will make him VERY welcome 😉😉

OchonAgusOchonOh · 03/08/2023 19:04

AnSolas · 03/08/2023 18:39

The one in since 2019 would be 4 years to a 6 ½ year term so likey out?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40234322.html

The other was in since 2021 for a total 2 but 1 in jail so out by now

https://dublingazette.com/dublinlocalmatters/courts/trans-woman-jailed-for-a-year-after-pub-fight/

And both served their full sentence in the women's prison.

Wanderingowl · 03/08/2023 19:20

Do we definitely know if female prison officers really no longer have to deal with him?

Froodwithatowel · 03/08/2023 19:24

I wonder if it was the political pressure or whether the individual in question became too unmanageable in the estate. Either way, good.

AnSolas · 03/08/2023 19:41

Froodwithatowel · 03/08/2023 19:24

I wonder if it was the political pressure or whether the individual in question became too unmanageable in the estate. Either way, good.

The prison female staff being told to stripsearch a male
Then staff made a policy of male for the bottom female for the top
The prison visitor teams were recording prisoner complaints

But there was a clip of leo&co being asked a generic question
https://gript.ie/is-barbie-kardashian-a-woman-leo-varadkar-asked-about-male-sex-offenders-in-womens-prisons/

"Is Barbie Kardashian a woman?"- Leo Varadkar asked about male sex offenders in women's prisons. - Gript

An Taoiseach, Leo Varadkar, has said that violent biological males should not be put into women’s prisons, as controversy grows around the placement of transgender sex offenders into Limerick women's jail.

https://gript.ie/is-barbie-kardashian-a-woman-leo-varadkar-asked-about-male-sex-offenders-in-womens-prisons

Florissante · 03/08/2023 20:05

Yes! I hope he stays there for a long, long time.

Igmum · 03/08/2023 20:42

Thank god. And I feel sorry for the poor staff who have to deal with him.

Froodwithatowel · 03/08/2023 21:00

It's the beginning of the end, as if any of them are male under some circumstances, then they're all male all of the time and its an admittance that it's a fiction with boundaries.

It's just bloody awful that a female body count is left behind these males in destruction testing how far male desire can be prioritised over prison staff inconvenience women's safety.

WickedSerious · 03/08/2023 23:26

PatatiPatatras · 03/08/2023 18:09

got a grc, changed name, can't be sectioned, rips off eyelids...

The inmate is running the asylum.

The faecal matter is in charge of the sewage treatment plant.

Backstreets · 04/08/2023 06:24

Thank god for that! He’s spent years terrorising women. Can’t imagine he’ll behave in male jail but at least the other inmates won’t be half his size!

IncompleteSenten · 04/08/2023 06:28

I wonder how many women in the prison this individual hurt before the prison finally acted.

Neverinamonthofsundays · 04/08/2023 07:10

Shocking he was put in there to begin with but I would be genuinely terrified at the prospect of him getting out. Men like him cannot be changed. He has had a bad life for sure but I do not believe he can be rehabilitated at all.

StephanieSuperpowers · 04/08/2023 10:59

I hope the staff are planning to sue the prison service for subjecting them to what cannot be a legally compliant work environment.

AnSolas · 04/08/2023 11:41

StephanieSuperpowers · 04/08/2023 10:59

I hope the staff are planning to sue the prison service for subjecting them to what cannot be a legally compliant work environment.

The stupid thing is that it is a legally compliant work place.

As far as the Irish law goes BK is a female with a penis.

The prison system should not be providing any type of state funded medical care if that care is funded by "for men legislation".

Plus woman/female specific legislation would apply eg the 2012 FGM legislation is applicable but male body parts (penis etc) were not included

The female officers are strip searching a woman with a penis

StephanieSuperpowers · 04/08/2023 11:42

That's just terrible.

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