Canadian professor advocates exposing kids to adult genitals

BabyStopCryin · 02/08/2023 22:55

Used to be called flashing when I was a kid. Mums used to warn their kids about men who wanted to flash their willies at you. Kick hard, run and scream.

Childrenofthestones · 02/08/2023 23:39

Shades of John Money 😟

IcakethereforeIam · 02/08/2023 23:59

Gosh, slowly accustoming kids to genitalia, particularly male genitalia. Ooh, there's a word for that...tip of my....currying? Nope, I'll have it in a second. Brooming? I don't think that's even a word.

Imagine living in a head where that tweet seems like not just a good idea, but an 'all time excellent idea'. Dangerous fuckwit.

AutumnCrow · 03/08/2023 00:07

Does this tweeter also simultaneously support the surgical alteration of genitalia?

Just wonderin’

PriOn1 · 03/08/2023 03:56

Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 02/08/2023 21:00

Thieme, a female Canadian (UBC) Journalism professor's tweet was:

“Hey, want to know one of my all time excellent parenting ideas? Let. Little. Children. See. Penises. And. Vulvas. Of. Various. Ages. And. Sizes. In. A. Casual. Normalized. Totally. Safe. Way. The world will thank you for it. And so will those children when they grow up,”

“Just imagine if the Riley Gaines‘ of this society could totally keep their cool at the sight of a trans dick. And just imagine if Riley Gaines’ parents were like, yeah, that happens, it’s okay, now let’s talk about your upcoming training schedule.”

I'm always aghast at the lengths some supporters of this movement will go to remove all safeguarding for women and children without any seeming endpoint to it. Everyone should just be fine with harmless naked trans dicks everywhere, I just don't understand what motivates her.

https://twitter.com/TrueNorthCentre/status/1686519679865552897

She’s forgetting there are two sides to this equation.

These types demonstrate an astonishing ignorance of the reasons men want to get their dicks out in front of women and children. Normalising situations where exhibitionists can get their jollies in front of children is not the positive societal change she wants it to be.

She’s either utterly naive about men or a pervert herself.

Tezza1 · 03/08/2023 04:36

So much of life is starting to seem more and more like Monty Python:

Monty Python the flasher

From "And Now for Something Completely Different"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2BVh66XORU

greenspaces4peace · 03/08/2023 04:56

it's one thing for small children to watch their sisters or brothers get a diaper change, to walk in while mum or dad are using the toilet or showering.
for grand kids to go to the swimming pool and see naked people while accompanied.
younger boys do go into public washrooms and probably side eye someone at a urinal.
i'd say it's probably a good thing at a certain appropriate age to have witnessed some nakedness, especially in light that the youth body changes and you need to prepare yourself/your child for eventual bodily development.
perverted exhibitionism no

Backstreets · 03/08/2023 05:00

Hope this “excellent” thinker doesn’t have children to educate in the ways of “trans dicks”, but will hopefully grow some empathy for “the Riley Gaines of this world” and not just the men at some point.

Clymene · 03/08/2023 05:06

I agree with her that more people should see the reality of transgender genital surgery because I've never a photo of anything that looks remotely like an actual penis or a vulva. Maybe it would stop people thinking it was a good idea.

UBCnamechange · 03/08/2023 05:20

I am at the same university, and I've briefly come across Katja. I don't know her well at all, but OP, you asked about her motivation: Katja goes by "she/they", which I think explains it.

Possibly another contributing factor is that she is from Germany, and nudism is fairly popular in Germany. Not to stereotype Germans, but I wondered if perhaps she herself was raised by nudists and thinks that her childhood experience is/should be normal? ...that's the only charitable explanation that comes to mind.

merrymelodies · 03/08/2023 05:51

I can believe it. UBC is full of crackpots.

ResisterRex · 03/08/2023 06:30

Childrenofthestones · 02/08/2023 23:39

Shades of John Money 😟

My first thought too

Faffertea · 03/08/2023 07:19

Mind. Open. Brain.Floor.

Blatantlyfemale · 03/08/2023 07:27

Such dishonesty. It’s not just about seeing a man naked, it’s about a man wanting to be in women’s space when they are naked.

They are basically insulting and shaming women for not wanting aroused heterosexual men to be naked around them.

They are shaming and insulting women for wanting to choose who sees them naked. For not wanting to be voyeured.

They are shaming and insulting women for their experiences of makes that tells them that men who want to be around you when you are naked, are not men you are safe around.

They are shaming and insulting women for knowing that men who force you to see them naked are getting a kick from doing so.

They are shaming and insulting women for wanting to have basic, privacy, dignity and boundaries.

Does this professor attend her professional work meetings naked? Thought not. Does she invite her colleagues to strip baked at meetings?
Thought not. If she doesn’t do this, why is it ok for her to shame any woman for not wanting to do similar?

user123212 · 03/08/2023 07:31

Clymene · 03/08/2023 05:06

I agree with her that more people should see the reality of transgender genital surgery because I've never a photo of anything that looks remotely like an actual penis or a vulva. Maybe it would stop people thinking it was a good idea.

now i'm curious

nauticant · 03/08/2023 07:36

In the theme of the Monty Python clip above:

https://twitter.com/GildaYork67/status/1684541096993386501

PriOn1 · 03/08/2023 07:41

greenspaces4peace · 03/08/2023 04:56

it's one thing for small children to watch their sisters or brothers get a diaper change, to walk in while mum or dad are using the toilet or showering.
for grand kids to go to the swimming pool and see naked people while accompanied.
younger boys do go into public washrooms and probably side eye someone at a urinal.
i'd say it's probably a good thing at a certain appropriate age to have witnessed some nakedness, especially in light that the youth body changes and you need to prepare yourself/your child for eventual bodily development.
perverted exhibitionism no

Agree with this.

I live in Norway, where nudity in changing rooms is entirely normal and women walk around and shower without problems. It’s psychologically healthy, I think.

It would change entirely if someone with a dick invaded, indeed a case already came to court.

Allowing men to swing their dicks in women’s spaces will invariably attract male exhibitionists, whether they claim they are women consistently or otherwise.

If Katja wants to use mixed sex spaces, she can campaign for them and not inflict them non-consensually on the rest of us.

Her judgypants comment about the perfectly normal Riley Gaines is nasty. Clearly “be kind” only applies in one direction.

PillowQuilt · 03/08/2023 08:01

You know who probably grew up being exposed to penises of various ages and sizes, yet doesn't want to share a dressing room with them? Lia Thomas.

The Professor's 'excellent parenting idea' may need more work.

Igneococcus · 03/08/2023 08:23

I'm German, I've used changing rooms and showers with my male friends when I played mixed Volleyball and didn't mind that at all, but they were my friends and it was before mobile phones and they would have respected it if I would have wanted a changing room for myself (and vice versa). It's important to have the choice and not being guilt-tripped into it. At the big outdoor tournaments that happen throughout the summer in central Europe there were always some changing rooms/showers which were kept strictly females only, usually by the Italian female players but not only them.
My nieces (35 and 31) seem to be a lot less comfortable or prepared with sharing changing rooms with males than I was but I think the fact that there are phones with cameras everywhere has a lot to do with this.

Musomama1 · 03/08/2023 08:24

Nope. Let's hope all the sensible women never, ever make this anything other than grossly inappropriate.

Yusay · 03/08/2023 09:21

Seeing your parents and siblings wander round the house naked on the way to the shower = fine.

Being taught that it’s normal and fine for a stranger to want to show kids his dick? Child abuse.

happydappy2 · 03/08/2023 10:45

I wonder what has happened to her, to make her think what she is proposing is sensible? As for the dig at Riley that’s disgusting. It is not normal for women athletes to have to compete against a male, in what was previously a single sex sport.

DiabolicalFinial · 03/08/2023 14:44

What exactly is a “trans dick”? How is it in any way different to a male dick? Hint - it isn’t, as they both refer to male genitalia.

dimorphism · 03/08/2023 16:09

I don't agree of course but the thing is with this rationale - it would result, logically in always having mixed sex spaces. Which the TRAs wouldn't be happy with at all.

Because Lia Thomas in a mixed sex changing room would be told to get his dick away from the girls changing by other men. The women wouldn't only be there as a validation tool for Lia to abuse without their consent. Other men would see and they might be a tad pissed off if Lia is abusing their daughters or wives or mothers.

They don't want that.

dimorphism · 03/08/2023 16:13

After all, if it's cool for little girls to see male dicks, then it would be discriminatory (it is already discriminatory) for it to be only Lia and other TWs dicks that children see. What about the other men?

And whatever this person thinks, other men, Dads in particular, aren't all cool with Lia and people like him waving his dick in their daughter's face. They're waking up more and more to this.

Most kids will see their parents genitals at some point and the genitals of their peers - you know, in a safe place with an adult without an agenda to abuse the child or disregard their needs. I can't really see what's wrong with that.

It's as if all we know about safeguarding has magically disappeared.