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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Friend's child. Is this worrying?

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namechange102938 · 20/07/2023 20:09

I'm probably opening a can of worms here but I would really like to hear from others on this.

The situation is this:

My lovely female friend is married to another woman. They had a DD. When DD was 3, they had a DS. DD had always been more interested in trucks than dolls. After DS was born, DD started saying that she was a boy too. The parents immediately switched to male pronouns and within the year they've changed the child's name to a boy name and even changed the birth certificate and the passport, erasing the child's birth identity. We're in a liberal US state.

I have trans friends, but they were all adults when they transitioned so I don't know what the healthy approach is for children. At 3 years old it seems to me that there's a possibility that being a boy was appealing since the only boy in the house (the new baby) was naturally getting a lot of attention. Also, a love of trucks and a dislike of dolls surely shouldn't matter.

I know my friends deeply love their children and think they're doing what's best for the child. I'm just concerned that perhaps the child isn't trans, but it would now be very difficult for him to change his mind. Changing the name and the birth certificate feels unnecessary at this stage. It seems to me that it send a message a child might interpret as 'they love me as DS more than they loved me as DD, so I can never be DD again no matter how I feel'.

Ironically, it seems very binary and limiting. They're already planning to use puberty blockers. The child takes part in trans events and has a whole identity based around this one part of him even though he's now just 7.

Do many very young trans children change their minds? Does this seem concerning or am I just out of touch?

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BabyStopCryin · 23/12/2023 08:49

What stops these parents from saying ‘this is Sadie - she loves monster trucks, rugby and plays the drums’?

Seriously what is stopping them? ‘This is Tim, yes he does like to dress like Ella from Frozen. He makes a mean chocolate cake’.

’Amy - can you get down off the roof please? That child! She is such a daredevil and wants to be a soldier when she grows us!’

‘oh yes - she he green veggies’ (yes one if the actual ‘reasons’ given for transing a kid in America)

PrawnLiberationFront · 23/12/2023 13:25

The parents immediately switched to male pronouns and within the year they've changed the child's name to a boy name and even changed the birth certificate and the passport, erasing the child's birth identity.

There is no US state in which it is legally possible for parents to amend a birth certificate in this way.

What else about this story isn't true, OP?

mach2 · 23/12/2023 14:04

When I was a kid, a lass that lived around the corner from me loved truck toys, Action Man and other boys stuff. She wanted her hair short, didn't like skirts etc. Her parents just let her get on with it.

Come our teenage years and she turned out to be gay. These days she'd have a good chance of being transed.

BabyStopCryin · 23/12/2023 14:50

Sounds like one of my sisters. The other one has a farm and drives tractors and quad bikes around. Oh dearie me. And my brother hated football.

NZdad · 24/12/2023 01:20

anyolddinosaur · 23/12/2023 05:39

Poor child. This is not worrying, it's terrifying. Do all you can to deter them from puberty blockers. https://www.statnews.com/2017/02/02/lupron-puberty-children-health-problems/

Perhaps they feel their own lives would have been easier if they were male, or one of them was seen as male? You could maybe ask if they are planning to transition themselves?

The kid is a male who is now being called a girl. Parents are educated professionals in Oz, on the left of course. I think it's a cult-of-expertise situation plus ideology & political echo zone. Crunchy arguments won't fly I think.

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