Could you be 'de-banked' for being gender-critical?

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I'm sure Nigel Farage has very few fans here. However, in the light of his bank, Coutts, closing his bank accounts due to his political beliefs, could this happen to gender-critical women too?

Farage has obtained documents from Coutts which make it clear that the bank gave him the boot because his views didn't align with their 'inclusive' purpose.

I wonder if GC women such as Posie Parker have had similar issues? Or if this is something that could happen? Believing in humans being a sexually dimorphic species is, as we all know, 'not inclusive'.

Are you sure about the not racist bit? The man who gave us this?

Not just NatWest. Anyone recall the uproar when Halifax told customers to piss off if their values didn't align with the banks? since when did I have to take a BANK, FGS, as a moral arbiter? and they were cheered on by HSBC, the bag carriers for the CCP.

Halifax are owned by Lloyds. Lloyds biggest share holder is mentioned in this historical film.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04b183c/hypernormalisation

Nigel Farage's account was closed because he no longer had the funds to maintain it.

So the 40 page dossier from Coutts is a forgery?

DH has just come home raging about Coutts and all this and he really hates Farage.

He is furious that they've engineered a situation that means Farage is in the right and raises his platform further and he's furious that banks think they can behave as some sort of political and moral arbiter.

Keep up, Kate. That's soooooo yesterday's story. Have you just woken up, or something?

Where do you get this from?

So why has the CEO apologised? You really ought to remove those blinkers.

I find it genuinely frightening that people like Curlew Kate and several others in the NF Coutts affair threads see no problem with the bank’s action (by accepting a statement which has been proved to be untrue) because of personal loathing of NF.
What next? It’s ok for a hospital to refuse to operate on a patient because he/she has views unacceptable to the hospital directors?

I hate to break it to you but that already happened.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4658806-hospital-refuses-to-operate-after-woman-requests-all-female-care

Already happened, a private London hospital and Brighton to an autistic woman, many more no doubt.

Utilities will be refused based on beliefs, next.

We already have woke food.

sun goes round the earth too. For sure. That Galileo voted for brexit and didn’t support BLM, I heard.

You think pointing out that importing a city the size of Leeds every year is racist?

I'm not against immigration but it needs to be managed much better. Eritrean draft dodgers and Albanian drug dealers aren't welcome

https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1682071160433913856?t=INLUbxgqiGo1v2DBoSeTdw&s=19

According to Andrew Neil

Facebook group of close to 10,000 former customers who say their NatWest accounts were closed down are sharing templates and instructions on how to lodge Subject Access Requests with the bank demanding any dossiers on them. As I wrote this morning, Nat West/Coutts now entering a world of pain.

Bring it on.

I will not speculate on Farage's exact classification, but my 75 year old uncle is racist, judging by his comments last Christmas. So should he lose his bank account?

Do my cousins deserve to lose their bank account for being related to him, as well?

Perhaps all current account holders should have to pass a written exam to test them for prejudice. If they fail, their accounts are closed!

If it's important enough to close one man's account, then it's important enough to screen us all. The banks wouldn't want to treat us unequally, would they? Perish the thought that they might be wishing to launder their reputations by ditching selected scapegoats while continuing to rake money in from thousands of other customers who hold similar beliefs.

Page 1 of the dossier, extracted from the minutes of a WRR committee meeting :
The committee did not think continuing to bank NF was compatible with Coutts given his publicly stated views that were at odds with our position as an inclusive organisation.

Even when there's written evidence from Coutts themselves that they took the decision based on non-financial grounds, people still choose to believe the opposite just because they hate the person concerned.
It could be one day that the banks take against birds and then some people might find that they are getting fucked over too. I wonder if they will feel so laid back about it all then.

It's just a coincidence that all of the people in that poster are brown then? How reflective of EU freedom of movement is that?

If this really is a widespread thing, why have the banks done this? Are they hoping for Stonewall gold stars for their sticker chart or is it unrelated to GC views..?

If this really is a widespread thing, why have the banks done this? Are they hoping for Stonewall gold stars for their sticker chart or is it unrelated to GC views..?

Same reason as all the other orgs - their ESG ratings. Basically the same thing as the Stonewall index (and it's possible that the Stonewall index might feed into it), but more significant because there are a range of financial things predicated on ESG scores.

Just as the can cut Farage off for non-compliance, a company can be cut off for non-compliance - or even insufficient performance and flag-waving.

This was a reasonable 15-minute video on the Dylan Mulvaney mess, going into it.

And yes, GC views are absolutely part of the set of things bad for your ESG rating.

Quoting from above, they'd claim them to not be "values that serve the common good and that treat people with dignity and respect", and hence "when considering our stance specifically on ESG/diversity the comments/articles are not in line with our views or our purpose".

You get your ESG score up by having things like Drag Queen Story Hour - that's "diversity" and "treating people with dignity and respect", you see.

I think the CEO is going to live to regret telling the BBC this one so I'm quoting it every time I see it now.

Turns out she sat next to the guy at the BBC who broke this news the night before it broke. Not only a lie. But disclosing personal information to the fucking BBC. Which is against GDPR.

She didn't mention this though in her apology letter to Farage.

I don’t think there is any evidence that this disclosure came from Rose, is there? Seems unlikely to me she would be this stupid.

She sat next to the BBC person who broke the story the very night before the story broke at a Nat West event.

I mean, come on. If it wasn't her she'd have been apologising for this 'leak', with a promise to investigate, in her apology letter right?

Luckily the BBC reporter is on hand to confirm it wasn't her, oh hang on...he seems to have gone silent.

From the document to that letter the staff at Coutts sound incompetent. How are they not better at what they do.