UK Civil Service to recognise and protect staff with gender critical views

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https://www.vice.com/en/article/3aka9y/leaked-document-exposes-transphobic-draft-guidelines-for-uk-civil-servants

Interesting leak to Vice News from someone in the Civil Service.

Some excerpts:

The new policies state civil servants should equally recognise "gender critical beliefs" and "gender identity beliefs" – meaning that employees can openly share controversial views on trans lives without being penalised.

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The leaked document also proposes "changes on access to toilets'', so that only trans people with a Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC) can use single-sex facilities.

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Defining "gender critical belief", the document states: "A belief that recognises women only as adult human females and men only as adult human males and that it is impossible to change sex which is determined at conception."

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In response, a government spokesperson said: "We don't comment on alleged leaks." They added, "It is a longstanding value of the Civil Service that differing viewpoints are tolerated and respected."

Well this will be interesting. Imagine civil servants having to respect other people's legal views? Imagine having to use your workplace for work rather than as an outpost for trans activism? Imagine Stonewall, Gendered Intelligence, Global Butterflies and countless other lobby groups not being able to influence public policy in their own interest behind closed doors.

Just imagine .... 😎

Incredibly hyperbolic article, then I saw it was by Ben Hunte so that tracks 🙄
I see that staff are reportedly 'terrified' by the guidelines. I don't believe that any sane person could possibly be 'terrified' at women being allowed their own toilets.
And imagine being terrified at: "employees can hold different opinions and beliefs in the workplace” or “reasoned and rational debate.”
What utter, utter nonsense.

😂 that’s the absolute opposite of what the new policy states!

The funny thing is we keep hearing there's a 'moral panic' and I do agree with that. But it's not a moral panic about trans people. It's a moral panic about GC ones. Being 'terrified' at the possibility your colleagues might believe women are female has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

Interesting.

No surprises Jolyon is in there too with his track record of expert legal expertise proven by all his legal wins.

Here's the text of the policy document screenshots in the article:

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Facilities

78. If the employee has a GRC, they are legally entitled to access toilet facilities in their acquired gender. Should other employees object to this, you should explain that using the correct facilities is the individual's legal right and forms an important part of gender transition.

79. If the employee is transitioning but does not yet have a GRC, you will need to consider the facilities available in accordance with the Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992:

• If your toilet facilities are gender-neutral and in separate and internally lockable rooms, these can be made available to any employee.

• If your toilet facilities are single-sex and self-contained, in separate and individual rooms rather than cubicles, and capable of being Secured from inside, the transitioning employee can use those that are the best match for their gender identity.

• If the only such separate and internally lockable facilities are those for disabled employees, you can require a transitioning employee to use these gender-neutral facilities for a reasonable period (which may be as long as the duration of the 'real life experience') pending further discussion. However, you must not insist that they continue to use facilities which do not conform to their gender identity.

• In addition, disabled facilities available in the Department's estate may be used by anyone who prefers to use separate facilities.

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How to support your transgender, non-binary and intersex colleagues

138. The Department acknowledges that some employees believe that a person's biological sex is immutable. Employees that hold this belief must be treated with respect and dignity and protected from bullying, harassment and discrimination, in the same way that they are expected to treat intersex, non-binary and transgender colleagues. This does not, however, mean that it is acceptable indiscriminately and gratuitously to refer to a trans person in terms other than they would wish.

139. Language around transgender, non-binary and intersex issues evolves. Terms that were once accepted can quickly become outdated and offensive. It may be helpful to look at definitions and useful terminology.

Should other employees object to this, you should explain that using the correct facilities is the individual's legal right and forms an important part of gender transition.**

I thought it was purely a need to pee and not anything more significant? Have they been dishonest about this?

Hmm, so a male with a GRC and a penis (as most will retain them) can legally use the womens facilities....We know that even sexual predators serving time in prison can get a GRC-there are no checks and balances whatsoever. We are not allowed to ask if someone has a GRC...

I really think its time to stop the pretence that men can become women.

Think we need to see the whole thing, given the source is Vice/Hunte

Once again, women asserting their legal rights, and their legal right to discuss these rights, is labelled "transphobic."

These gender extremist ideologues really just keep on revealing how much they resent women in public life, don't they?

It would be much better if we all just went back to skivvying in the kitchen.

Is this intended to update this

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4805464-parliamentary-staff-urged-to-police-pronouns-and-identify-transphobia

From the document....
Sex
41. Some people regard sex as a matter of biology only. Others treat the word as interchangeable with gender based on self-identification. For the purpose of this policy, we use the term to refer to the legal concept of sex, which is based either on a person’s sex at birth or the sex which has been “acquired” as a result of obtaining a GRC. On this basis, a person’s sex is either a man (or a male) or a woman (or a female).

So males with a GRC will be lumped in with actual Women-anyone see a potential problem with this? Women exist as a category seperate to men!

Point 139. The Department acknowledges that some employees believe that a person’s biological sex is immutable. Employees that hold this belief must be treated with respect and dignity and protected from bullying, harassment and discrimination, in the same way that they are expected to treat intersex, non-binary and transgender colleagues. This does not, however, mean that it is acceptable indiscriminately and gratuitously to refer to a trans person in terms other than they would wish.

So women will be compelled to use language they do not wish to....we will be forced to refer to a man in 'terms they would wish.' I personally will not refer to a man as she....

1. Para 3 annex 2. For a range of different reasons, many transgender individuals choose not to apply for a GRC. Although not covered by the GRA, it is good practice to treat a transgender applicant who does not hold a GRC in the same way as an applicant who does.

So in effect ALL men can be treated as though they have a GRC and use the ladies washrooms-just great.....what is the point of single sex provision if literally any man can use it? This policy just doesn't make any sense.

If there’s any movement away from the slavish adherence to Stonewall law, and in particular acknowledging our right to express dissent from any belief in gender identity, I will be enormously relieved. I am in the process of joining the civil service and it has been worrying me as I don’t think I’ll be able to bring myself to lie. I have been pleasantly surprised however, that I have not seen a single pronoun in an e-mail signature.

Can we campaign to repeal the GRA, yet?

Ffs. That's self ID!

I wonder how much work productivity will improve when most of the staff can stop tiptoeing around the ever so offended members of staff!

Like I said - consider the source

Is this not just a recognition of recent ET verdicts and a minimal movement to avoid facing the same verdicts?

Gosh that article is cuckoo, luney tunes and round the blinking twist

Defining “gender critical belief”, the document states: “A belief that recognises women only as adult human females and men only as adult human males and that it is impossible to change sex which is determined at conception.”

aka reality. Seems about right

if you’re going to demand that people pretend stuff that isn’t true, then you are going to find yourself in conflict. And that’s not the fault of the reality people

So do the legal exemptions in the equality act that specifically states that a person with a GRC can be excluded from single sex spaces not count now?

This is from SEEN network, they have emailed members the entire draft document for consultation