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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Male sex offenders ‘faking trans identities’ to move to women’s prisons

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ItsFunToBeAVampire · 10/07/2023 21:36

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/10/jailed-male-sex-offenders-fake-trans-women-prisoners/

"Inmates who pretended to be transitioning saw it as a way to lower their risk and to try to secure a place in the female prison estate, according to the evidence unearthed by Inside Time, the prisoners’ newspaper."

Who could possibly have thought that this would ever happen?

Male sex offenders ‘faking trans identities’ to move to women’s prisons

Evidence unearthed by the prisoners’ newspaper Inside Time found inmates were pretending to change gender to access the female estate

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/10/jailed-male-sex-offenders-fake-trans-women-prisoners

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MowingTheTerf · 11/07/2023 16:14

Convicted liars lie? Never saw that coming.

Apollo441 · 11/07/2023 16:31

Society seems to be moving from a collective viewpoint to the rights of the individual trumps all. So it doesn't matter if 99% of sexual offences are committed by one group (i'll let you guess which) you cannot exclude members of that group for the safety of the other group. Or at least that's what they are pushing for. It is insane.

SpicyMoth · 11/07/2023 18:26
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Who'da thunkit

Froodwithatowel · 11/07/2023 18:44

Apollo441 · 11/07/2023 16:31

Society seems to be moving from a collective viewpoint to the rights of the individual trumps all. So it doesn't matter if 99% of sexual offences are committed by one group (i'll let you guess which) you cannot exclude members of that group for the safety of the other group. Or at least that's what they are pushing for. It is insane.

I'd be more sympathetic if it was moving to the rights of ALL individuals trump everything else.

But it doesn't. Because these 'rights' don't require cessation of anything, they require service from others. A right in these terms requires someone to provide and fulfil the right. In this case, the individual rights require someone else being compelled to be selfless and obedient to give the individual whatever they want. It's like the thing of to have a right to sex requires someone compelled to give that person sex whether they wish to or not.

This is a world view of society being split into the served and the service providers. The entitled and the service humans. The mummies and the spoiled brats.

Try telling someone into critical theory that you plan to choose your own identity and labels, and require your own access needs to be met in a way that would displease a male transitioner and you very quickly discover that these are not universal rights, but special privileges to be accorded to a very specific group at everyone else's expense. And no. Even if I was silly enough to go along with it, it should be very obvious that this is never going to end well for anyone.

Datdamndamp · 11/07/2023 19:04

I am just pretending to be surprised.

In prisons there is a lot more information about someone's past, risk and behaviour to make decisions and risk assessments a out moving estate. None of that is available around admitting transwomen to women's refuges, hostels etc. The idea that you could demonstrate it in prison and then roll out to all public services is risible.

getafringenotbotox · 11/07/2023 19:34

And no one has been able to prove this is what men will do and are doing to access women's spaces.

I mean we know it's happening but you can't prove who is genuine and who isn't.

It's all a joke.

I've had a shit day in work. Mainly due to creatures with penises.

This doesn't surprise me.

ChiefClerkDrumknott · 13/07/2023 01:01

@Datun ’'Unearthed' 🤣’
I’m shocked and appalled! Can’t believe it

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