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The Mill has published an investigation into the issues at Birchfield's school, Manchester

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littleripper · 08/07/2023 11:50

https://manchestermill.co.uk/p/the-battle-at-birchfields-sex-relationships

The Mill has published an investigation into the issues at Birchfield's school in Manchester. All so incredibly predictable. We do not need this animosity stoking in our communities.

The battle at Birchfields: Sex, relationships and ugliness at a Manchester primary school

A large group of parents gathered to shout at teachers outside a Fallowfield school this week. They say it started with a video about a trans child

https://manchestermill.co.uk/p/the-battle-at-birchfields-sex-relationships

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IcakethereforeIam · 08/07/2023 13:02

Interesting article. One of the comments Ruth Livingston(?) summed it up for me. The video shouldn't have been shown and the school,should be more open about what they are teaching. If they leave a blank where there should be an answer people will fill it in. Because the school seem to be acting like they're hiding something the parents are more likely to draw the worst conclusions.

TheBiologyStupid · 08/07/2023 17:58

Agreed, an interesting article. The school should be open and honest about what is being taught in class and until it is parents will rightfully be suspicious.

littleripper · 08/07/2023 20:53

This area does not need tensions stoking.

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Thatgirl1981 · 08/07/2023 21:01

This will happen more and more covid out a lot of this on the back burner

left wing types have convinced themselves that Muslims are woke 🤷🏿‍♂️
they are socially conservative alot of parents are now starting to realise

a-they no longer have the veto
b- that this ideology is also very racist these people especially think they are saving Muslim children from their ignorant parents who are just ignorant and are are clever as Enlightened middle class whites I have herd the recording from teachers trying to convert Muslim children in to secularism

SinnerBoy · 09/07/2023 01:19

The article is written by a TWAW sneak. The whole tone is of outrage that the parents are objecting, whilst pretending that it's calm and balanced.

Sajid pretends that it's not about religion, but what! oh see here! Look what we found! Religious bigots, claiming not to be anti-trans!

Kevinscousin · 09/07/2023 02:50

I got a sense of "oh it's just those extremist Muslim parents again" from some of the teachers and the author of the article. And they don't come across like that at all. I think it's awful that parents have to beg schools to find out what the hell they are teaching their kids. Awful. That film is so inappropriate.

Thatgirl1981 · 09/07/2023 08:25

But even if it’s entirely about religion

religion is a protected characteristic on the uk and schools have to follow the law

most people religious or not do not want there children exposed to over sexualised sex education and want the right to pass on there values around sex and relationships

PermanentTemporary · 09/07/2023 08:39

I thought the article was reasonably balanced. I don't think there's any doubt that these protests currently get weaponised and whipped up by external forces and accusations made that aren't true.

The original issue was clearly true though - an age-inappropriate video was shown. I'm glad that's been sorted out and yes I do think that the process of how that happened should be rigorously investigated.

Not by 'parent observers' sitting in lessons though.

RedToothBrush · 09/07/2023 08:52

Thatgirl1981 · 08/07/2023 21:01

This will happen more and more covid out a lot of this on the back burner

left wing types have convinced themselves that Muslims are woke 🤷🏿‍♂️
they are socially conservative alot of parents are now starting to realise

a-they no longer have the veto
b- that this ideology is also very racist these people especially think they are saving Muslim children from their ignorant parents who are just ignorant and are are clever as Enlightened middle class whites I have herd the recording from teachers trying to convert Muslim children in to secularism

A lot of Muslims vote conservative due to socially conservative view and a more work hard blue collar ethos (which was typical of non-conformist working class religious groups such as the Methodist movement in the last century) - it's an interesting dynamic that I'm not sure is being fully grasped by the left because it's so tone deaf to it's own self righteousness.

There's a fair population that could flip elections if not taken seriously.

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