Domestic abuse according to the CPS includes...

[DerekFaker]

Misgendering and dead naming.

Some of these things sound horrendous and fair enough to include them.

But really??? This is surely compelled speech.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/domestic-abuse

Withholding money for transition? Would that be family money, otherwise used to feed and clothe children?

Sharing pre-transition images? Would that include photographs of children with their dad/mum before the parent involved declared they didn't exist any more?

Refusing to use preferred name? Could that include children calling their dad dad or their mum mum?

I presume asking for a divorce could be read as using the process of coming out as a form of control.

Partners/wives/children really are fucked, aren't they?

I can totally see some of these being misued by an abusive husband to attack their wife.

So if a woman is beaten by her husband she cant go to thr police and tell them she's being beaten by her husband?

Can said husband end up in the same shelter ?

So financial abuse isn't financial abuse if the money is being used for transition?

This won't be abused at all will it 🙄

Desperately hoping this is a Brighton-only thing

Looks well intentioned... but completely misses the point.

And makes clearer why being able to walk away from relationships (aka the spousal "veto") is so important.

@DerekFaker i can’t find any of that on the cps website through the link you provided. Where did it come from?

As it doesn’t appear to be from the cps guidance hopefully none of that would stand up in court

So your wedding photos on display would be DV?
Wanting family money to be spent on feeding and clothing the children, house repairs, getting the MOT done instead of transitioning - DV
Refusing to insist the children now call Daddy, Mummy is DV?

Ever since the CPS came out with the grim"guidelines" for schools that told girls refusing to accept a boy in your changing rooms as you undress was a "hate crime" it's been evident that there's some extreme transactivists allowed to play with writing policy. They pulled the last guidelines when faced with a judicial review as they knew they were indefensible.

The CPS evidently have an incompetent management that allows men with a distaste for women and the family to exercise their personal fantasies about coercive control in guidance. Maybe this is something that a coalition of organisations can take to legal challenge?

My brain cannot comprehend this. So if my husband decides he’s a woman, I could be arrested for telling my husband that I don’t agree, he’s still a man and he’s not spending £20k of our savings on a boob job?

Particularly like the bit at the very bottom that says abuse is traumatic for everyone but can be additionally so for transpeople. Of course it is....

It's on page 5, annexe d.

It is at about 3/4 down the page. Search the page for "Brighton and Howe".

It's under Annex D.

It looks like a copy and paste job from this document (typos and all):

https://twitter.com/DontTrustRodger/status/1677052018437812226?t=pOIS2NWz_5tTlpDexNkDqw&s=19

"None of this is in the Domestic Abuse Act 2021. Whoever wrote that CPS page has done a sloppy copy from this document:"

avaproject.org.uk/wp-content/upl…

So this is guidance produced specifically by Brighton and Hove?

is there anything that can be done about it? It’s breathtakingly biased and unfair

Gender identity is what you know your gender to be and can only be decided by the individual for themselves. Gender identity might be the same as assigned sex (cisgender) or different to assigned sex (trans). Gender identity is not the same as sexuality; trans and non-binary people identify as heterosexual, gay, lesbian, bisexual, pansexual, asexual, and aromatic, amongst other identities.

Imagine all that guff on a government website, stated as fact. Next they'll be advising us on how to cast out demons.

Withholding money for transition? Would that be family money, otherwise used to feed and clothe children?

That struck me straight away.

This is another area where a 'bad actor' could abuse the system to abuse.

I’d laugh at “aromatic” if the rest wasn’t so awful. Presumably they meant aromantic (which is underlined as a misspelling 🤔)

Attacks on trans people are going to go through the roof then.
Great, more oppression olympics.

Thanks @DerekFaker - that's shocking!

There must be someway we can make a complaint? If the CPS are a captured organisation (which I suspect they are) then this shit is going to happen isn't it?! Women (mainly) are going to be prosecuted for DV when they don't affirm their husband/partner's who think they are women. FFS.

@BernardBlacksMolluscs - it is on the CPS website, under Annex D guidance on the impacts of DV for different groups, which prosecuters are advised to take into account.

Annex D: Impacts of Domestic Abuse -
Introduction This section of the guidance seeks to highlight the different impacts of domestic abuse on people from a range of communities and groups, and the particular considerations that prosecutors will need to bear in mind.

It is essential that prosecutors recognise that each victim’s experience of domestic abuse is unique and that the interconnected nature of social categorisations including, but not limited to, race, class, caste, gender, ethnicity, sexuality, disability, nationality, immigration status, geographical location and religion can create interdependent systems of discrimination and disadvantage.

Prosecutors should note that the list of groups identified below is not exhaustive and should only be used as a guide as it is not possible to include every scenario within this guidance.

My highlighting but it is clear that this list is something that prosecution could refer to.

The 'withholding money for transition' is a shocker isn't it.

Very interested - what is "aromatic"? Someone who refuses to wash for whatever reason?

I read the first bullet point - using the process of transition as a form of control, as a form of abuse that can be committed by a trans person.

But I don't think that is what they mean.

Trans widows voices have tweeted
Thank you for all your messages about the new CPS guidance. Feeling very shaken that being a trans widow seems to have effectively been criminalised. At a loss as to what to advise women other than leave immediately and leave quietly and take your children with you #transwidows

I agree, this is just a weapon for middle aged transitioners.

I hope they give such DV sufferers the same effort they give 'conventional' DV sufferers. But I suspect not.

Reading that just makes me so angry! I have an abusive ex and had loads of evidence against him they would not even look at it, fuck all was done to stop him they didn't even arrest him just had a phone call I think. I suffered till he found himself a new victim. They should be putting their effort into protecting the real vulnerable people: women and girls.

I looked into giving feedback as local guidance has no place in national/gov.uk guidance (I used to manage a large team of Civil Service guidance writers so know what the guidelines/standards are).

However, the feedback firm wants my name, address and date of birth which is somewhat invasive for a guidance feedback query. Also rather amusingly, it won't let me progress if I don't add a title - I don't use a title. You can tick other but there isn't a box for no title.

A friend of mine opened up recently about how she'd been groomed by a transvestite. She's a people pleaser and gradually got in deeper and deeper. Until she realised it was abusive.

I wonder now how much support a woman like her would get when she complained now? This was a work situation. Would she now be the baddie and pressured to recant or lose her job?