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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How does this place view single and celibate women

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IsThereAnEchoInHere · 06/07/2023 09:01

I was reading the comments on other thread (I have a point, so not a TAAT) about the asexual person.
And I’ve also been lurking on Ovarit (I can’t register there) and they also have, just like comments here about asexuality, very disparaging things to say.

So I was wondering does that extent to women who do not have sex? Maybe ever, even once?
Or is the problem just that you don’t like people calling themselves or being asexuals?

And once I’m here.
There’s been lot of talking about virginity being a social construct and shouldn’t matter, but IRL a self-proclaimed feminist (and happens in other situations too) bullied a person who was a virgin. Why was that seen as an okey thing to do?

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SammyScrounge · 14/09/2023 01:01

Mercymymercyme · 06/07/2023 10:05

I think this. My hobby group, which is a physical hobby and nothing related to sex or anything, recently announced they were a safe and welcoming place for various groups including asexuals. The asexual bit did strike me as there is no way the group could ever be an unsafe place for someone who doesn’t want sex. No one would ever know or be bothered. I think asexual can be a handy label for people to describe themselves to themself or others when required ( if dating, say) but I cannot see how asexual people are in any way an oppressed group.

These days you are nothing if not a victim of nameless dark forces. Asexuals should learn to whine ASAP and the world will then know that they are oppressed victims.

PumpkinspiceLeggongs · 14/09/2023 01:28

I don't hate asexuals. But I don't really understand asexuals because the way I see it if you don't like sex then don't have it. What's the big deal? It seems a bit immature to go around parading this part of yourself around like everyone needs to know?

Current lgbt+ community ironically thinks I'm very black and white ways. Hilarious because you know... Rainbows....?

Why are you oppressed? This is a detail of your life you could just keep to yourself and no one would even know. But if they did know that sex isn't your favourite activity you would probably be just fine. Your sexual partner might care if they have an active sex drive though but that's about the extent of it.

I think surely there's some other part of yourself that defines you better. Like idk maybe you like crochet? Or playing sports or you're into music.

You're not just an asexual. There's more to you than that. You'll cringe at this stage of your life when you mature. Probably because you're blasting it all over the internet for the world to see. It's hard to clean that up when it clicks that it's not your defining feature.

halfthishalfthat · 14/09/2023 07:44

I'm usually a lurker but I did want to say a few words here, for what it's worth. I've never really enjoyed sex nor have I ever felt a need for it. I've always found navigating what I feel is a highly sexualised world very strange. Nevertheless, I was married and have two children. I've been single for 10 years now and one of the things I most enjoy is not having to worry about sex any more.
Not really wanting or enjoying sex always made me feel as though there was something wrong with me, because I quite obviously do not feel the same way most other people do about sex. In my late forties, I happened upon the asexuality network AVEN purely by chance and I found that there were lots of other people who felt the same way about sex and sexuality. It was a relief to feel that I am perfectly normal and not „lacking“ or „broken“, which is what I had felt for a large part of my life.
I don't feel in any way oppressed and I don't discuss my sexuality with anyone because it's not important to me. My marriage was quite abusive, so that friends and family understand that I don't ever want another relationship, and there's no need for me to explain further.
I think what I wanted to say with this post is that it is important for people to be aware that a lack of sexual attraction is a perfectly normal thing, and that you can live a good and fulfilled life without sex or without feeling sexual attraction. As long as people understand that they are not broken or need to be fixed if they feel differently, then that is, I think, the main thing here. Personally, I don't need a flag or colours to identify with, but I'm 60 and just happy with myself at last.

ThisWillBeMyDay · 14/09/2023 08:03

PumpkinspiceLeggongs · 14/09/2023 01:28

I don't hate asexuals. But I don't really understand asexuals because the way I see it if you don't like sex then don't have it. What's the big deal? It seems a bit immature to go around parading this part of yourself around like everyone needs to know?

Current lgbt+ community ironically thinks I'm very black and white ways. Hilarious because you know... Rainbows....?

Why are you oppressed? This is a detail of your life you could just keep to yourself and no one would even know. But if they did know that sex isn't your favourite activity you would probably be just fine. Your sexual partner might care if they have an active sex drive though but that's about the extent of it.

I think surely there's some other part of yourself that defines you better. Like idk maybe you like crochet? Or playing sports or you're into music.

You're not just an asexual. There's more to you than that. You'll cringe at this stage of your life when you mature. Probably because you're blasting it all over the internet for the world to see. It's hard to clean that up when it clicks that it's not your defining feature.

Op said they don’t consider themselves to be an asexual.
So how could they make it their whole personality, or oppressed?
I’ve never seen an asexual or people who don’t want/like/have sex doing this.

Your comment is the usual hyperbole that happens around this topic.

There was nothing in op to ’cringe’ about or made them immature.
Having sex doesnmt make people ’mature’.

borntobequiet · 14/09/2023 08:03

As a “place”, I don’t think it gives a toss. However, individual MNers have pronounced views on all sorts of things from bathroom accessories to the use of depleted uranium ammunition, so I expect there are those who are vehemently pro or against celibacy or the single state. Personally, I don’t care. There are vastly more interesting/important/amusing things to think about.

PumpkinspiceLeggongs · 14/09/2023 13:52

Oh there it is. Typical lgtb+ behaviour. Observe that I never said sex makes someone mature but they somehow made that up because it makes their comment more interesting I guess or because they've been reading too much online propaganda and they are now constantly on the defensive assuming the worst about people.

@ThisWillBeMyDay

For your information dear I meant when they grow older. Not when they have sex. But you've already made up your mind about me haven't you so I'm sure arguing with you is pointless. That entire reply is filled with assumptions.

I bet you've already ticked several boxes about who I am. You've already decided things about my sex life, sexuality, my gender, religion, marital status, race, nationality, how much money I make, and who I vote for. Oh I'll bet you think I'm the dreaded ALT RIGHT. 😂😂😂

Did I get that right? I don't even need to dress up for Halloween! Please please I can't wait to hear all about me. This is why constructive conversations are impossible on these topics and why people have started ignoring people with these attitudes.

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