Now the Bank of England throws women under the bus

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Having had a bad night's sleep over Mika the 'mum' I read this:

The Bank of England has stated that people of any gender identity can become pregnant.

The Bank came 57th in Stonewall’s annual list last year after submitting a 103-page application. This revealed that in June 2021 the Bank had introduced a “family leave” policy that included the phrase “birthing parent” to mean mother. The Bank’s parental bereavement leave policy “talks about parents without specifying gender”, its application said.

It emphasised that the term meant “the parent who is/was pregnant with the child but includes persons of any and all gender identities”. It also detailed the Bank’s commitment to gender-neutral lavatories, stating that it planned to “upgrade” its facilities. That included a commitment to ensure that the seventh floor of its headquarters in London offered only unisex lavatories.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0ae0f936-178d-11ee-8fcc-23dc1e6b4441?shareToken=34d6841218e084c93c8462d9ef191c03

I am just so sick of this

I'm sick of it too. I'm starting to think women will be kept like cattle in the future :(

Where we anywhere other than under the bus?

Any gender identity but only one sex can get pregnant.

It is odd that the issue of gender identity and parenthood should manifest in this way. The Gender Recognition Act is quite clear that a woman's status as a mother is a matter of fact (or indeed a man's status as a father) and is not changed even when they have acquired a new gender under the provisions of that Act.

They will always be a mother regardless of their gender status.

Ffs. So stupid.

Does anyone remember the actress who was Linda Lovelace back in the 70s? she did a very thoughtful interview with Gloria Steinem in abook of essays Steinem wrote and she said one thing that has always stuck with me - 'one day they're going to be selling women's skins by the side of the road.' IIRC she was talking about pornography but it's equally applicable to this. I've been around a while and this is like the 70s - the complete and utter contempt for women that men aren't even bothering to hide now.

How are all these supposedly intelligent people falling so hard for this? is it because they aren't thinking about the implications down the road (which makes you really wonder about that intelligence) or do they really despise women that much that they want our total erasure?

In some ways I think it's the first. I used to work for a venue that laid on exhibitions and events and one organiser sent us an email that a controversial speaker was giving some speeches and that we weren't to say a word if anyone from the media rang up and asked about it. I looked the man up out of curiosity and it turned out he was one of those anti-feminist speakers - you know the type. All the things that have gone wrong with the world are since women got the vote and started having a voice and we need to make society MALE again. I emailed the colleague and asked just what sort of message she thought she was given to the rest of the women working for the company when a platform was being given to views that a lot of women would find abhorrent - she admitted she hadn't thought about it. Yet she'd thought about it to the extent she knew he was controversial - but because it was directed against women as opposed to POC that didn't matter.

That should say 'as opposed to for example POC that didn't matter.'

I agree that people of any gender identity can get pregnant, as long as several other conditions are also met, largely relating to their bodies being female and functioning in a certain way, and carrying out certain acts with other people of any gender identities with different conditions being met.

It's almost as if gender identity has nothing whatsoever to do with sex.

You may as well say "owners of any model of car can get pregnant".

"Each Bank employee, of whom there are 4,000 in the UK, was expected to have a diversity and inclusion objective for each calendar year and all would be assessed on it, the submission stated."

Applying the same ratcheting technique on individuals.

Anyone with any self-worth is going to leave and be replaced in the improved recruitment drive.

"The Bank is to introduce a recruitment system that will include “broader gender definitions” and wants to create “quantitative targets” in respect of LGBT employees. Stonewall suggested a focus on categories such as parents, LGBT staff aged under 26 or over 50, those at board level and people of faith. It added: “Stonewall can support with developing this area through creating bespoke workshops.” "

The pyramid grift is perpetuated.

Stonewall is blot on the face of humanity.

The DT is carrying this story too. I confess to not having read it yet, but surely if people of 'any gender identity' can get pregnant, those of us with no gender identity can too. Also, grief is not a sex-dependent state as pregnancy & birth are, so I can't understand the objection to 'parents' in that context. But, as I say, I haven't yet read the article so maybe all will be made clear when I do.

Let's not forget the mess the economy is in while the BoE is arsing around fulfilling Stonewall's dictates.

I dont understand the prominence that gender is being given. I thought we were reaching a point in society where gender was regarded as a pile of sexist shite and men and women could be, do, say, look how they wanted.

Then it seems a minority of people (and notably a number of wealthy powerful middle aged white men) decide they want everyone to pretend gender is sex. And now its everywhere, being forced down our throats faster than most can swallow.

While the implications of this on the sex that gender has historically harmed are being completely ignored.

Gender is important because

a. It is all things to all people, whilst at the same time having no fixed meaning.

b. It obliterates sex without anyone noticing.

Also, grief is not a sex-dependent state as pregnancy & birth are, so I can't understand the objection to 'parents' in that context.

It erases the different and more complex experience of the mother in the context of neo-natal bereavement. Possibly also in the context of primary care-giver.

www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-document-that-reveals-the-remarkable-tactics-of-trans-lobbyists/

This was shared by a poster on another thread. It's extraordinary and terrifying. Thanks @FedgeHund for sharing it on the other thread.

I’d rather they just concentrated on their job which is banking rather than pissing about like they are currently doing in things that concern their business not at all.

I thought saying birthing parent was to take account of lesbian couples where both are mothers but only one gives birth.

Let's not forget that the birthing mother (language that accounts for lesbian couples) has to physically recover as well.

Maternity leave was always longer than paternity leave for that reason too. There's a minimum amount of time a woman who's just given birth has to wait before she can go back to work, and for good reason.

It's a good fair policy. It covers adoption too to allow parents decent time off with their children

This is how we end up with a newborn attacked to a males nipple, denied nutrition designed for them made by the female who birthed it and taught to suck substances including drugs from a males body.

That book (Outrageous Acts And Everyday Rebellions), and particularly that essay, blew me away, when I read it in the early 90s. Unbelievable that Steinem, who showed such a deep understanding of how women's bodies are abused, has now drunk the Kool-Aid.

Thank God for Greer!

13 Direct discrimination
(1)A person (A) discriminates against another (B) if, because of a protected characteristic, A treats B less favourably than A treats or would treat others.

(6)If the protected characteristic is sex—
(a)less favourable treatment of a woman includes less favourable treatment of her because she is breast-feeding;
(b)in a case where B is a man, no account is to be taken of special treatment afforded to a woman in connection with pregnancy or childbirth.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/part/2/chapter/2/crossheading/discrimination?view=plain

Now an urgent question on the closure of bank accounts has been refused in the commons.

It seems if you don't like a politician due to his unpopular opinions in banking you punish him also in parliament.

Just another organization in thrall to Stonewall. I'm sick and tired of this rubbish. I have PCOS, I had immense difficulty conceiving,I thought I would never be a mother, I miscarried several times, had a cervical erosion during one pregnancy, am now well past the menopause. ALL of those things happened to me because I am bloody well female. We can't even own the rubbish parts of womanhood, because some idiot with an agenda wants to expand the meaning and waffle on about gender. I understand sex and gender might not be the same,but for crying out loud if we are talking about pregnancy at least talk about females, and biology.I've seen too many stupid articles recently , shouldn't have read Owen Jones this week either.

That book (Outrageous Acts And Everyday Rebellions), and particularly that essay, blew me away, when I read it in the early 90s. Unbelievable that Steinem, who showed such a deep understanding of how women's bodies are abused, has now drunk the Kool-Aid

That was the one. I think I sent it to the charity shop, it isn't around now.

Thank God for Greer!

As you say. I read The Female Eunuch in my first uni year, and was stunned.

It seems if you don't like a politician due to his unpopular opinions in banking you punish him also in parliament

Dominic Lawson has written a good article on this in the Mail and this is also affecting MPs, according to him. As usual it looks like legislation was passed that either is being applied wrongly by the banks or no-one considered the law of unintended consequences when it was drawn up and debated.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12256943/Its-not-just-Nigel-Farage-daughter-blocked-opening-bank-account.html

Let's not forget that the birthing mother (language that accounts for lesbian couples) has to physically recover as well.

Exactly.