Furries.... Schools warned not to ridicule

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https://www.thesun.ie/news/10935640/parents-teachers-warned-schoolkids-furries/

I don’t think anyone’s going to ridicule a little child for playing a game of make believe. But the teenagers - do we not think most of them are just taking the piss and seeing what they can get away with? Trying to find the boundaries, as a PP said, and perhaps we should as a society be bloody well holding some?

This.

The article makes it very clear that the advice is about how to have conversations about the risk of involvement in the "Furry" community. It advises not to ridicule the child so as to have conversations where the child can open up and you can find out the root cause as to why they have been drawn to this community and help them to understand the dangers. Just as you wouldn't ridicule a child who was being exploited or slutshame a child who you were concerned about displaying risky sexual behaviour.
No school is nurturing children into becoming furries, but we get how here if we shame children, we only alienate them.

I’m relived kids question the logic around this this. Just as I would want my kids to challenge if a fellow anorexic classmate said she was fat.

I work in a place with many trans kids and they all have historic trauma, autism, mental health issues or questioning sexuality. Everyone is very kind to them even if they don’t buy into things.

I'm beginning to think that actually, the totally never judge, never mock, never point out when someone's behaving like an absolute twit, #bekindbeadoormat thing is some of what got us into this mess of no boundaries. And some kids going to really quite extreme lengths to try and locate some.

You're not the only one. This song keeps popping up, and it's 100% relevant on this thread.

It's nominally a comedy song, but its point is totally serious.

Life is an ecosystem, at least that's what they say
You got to think about what happens
When you take one piece away
And when we cracked down on the bullies
Perhaps we just went too far
'Cause with nothin' but encouragement
These kids don't even know what they are

What about the children identifying as wanting to work hard and get an education?

If time is spent on preferred pronouns and validating others (compelled validation is emotional abuse by the way) then I can't imagine much education is happening - other than in being gaslit and coercively controlled. Shame there's not a GCSE in 'walking on eggshells'.

At some point the GCSE results of the schools going along with this nonsense need to be compared to schools that don't. I'd be very happy to have a bet on what that comparison would show.

It is (as it should be) only a tiny minority of children acting this out in schools. And I'm certain that as soon as the insanity hit the press, any secondary schools who have "tolerated" the odd random student will have quickly knocked it on the head - and won't be admitting that there was a child to any LA! Imagine the embarrassment 😁
I wonder what's happened in the Norfolk independent school with 16 year old "Kitty" with her tail and water bowl who was introduced to new students recently ( a parent at the school posted on here)? Hopefully parental feedback from other parents will have put a stop to it.
These girls have done everyone a massive favour - by exposing the increasingly unhinged nature of self ID and forcing schools to confront some uncomfortable issues around compelled speech and coercive control.

I don’t know about the whole furries thing either way but this constant dismissal by The Guardian and centre left of the coercive tactics is the issue.

Indeed

But how is identifying as a girl when you're a boy or vice versa any different from identifying as a cat. Why would anyone play along with either?

I don’t actually think it matters whether there are many animal identified children in British schools.

The problem is that, faced with even the possibility of it, large numbers of adults are desperate to insist that people must be kind and respectful of that identity.

That’s what’s worrying here. It doesn’t even matter if there are no therians or furries in school at all; it’s still a bit alarming that any adults would be affirmative and looking to stamp out ‘ridicule’ (of the patently ridiculous).

It really should be a given that any teenager who decides to identify as a cat will just be told to stop being ridiculous at school.

Kids laughing at another teenager’s ridiculous behaviour isn’t necessarily bullying. If a 14 year old sticks on cat ears and a tail and insists on crawling around a classroom meowing at people, it’s fair enough if their peers laugh at them.

If they are vulnerable and mentally unwell - rather than just silly, attention-seeking teens - then the adults around them should have intervened before it got to the meowing at classmates stage. You’d hope they always would. But, given the way quite a lot of people have responded to the idea of furries or therians in classrooms, the worry would be that the adults (parents, teachers, social workers, medical professionals, etc) might decide they’re all progressive and understanding and affirm this stuff.

We should be able to be confident that wouldn’t happen. Especially with a concept as ridiculous as cat-identified people. That should have been a really easy one.

Careful now, OP! Next thing you’ll be questioning grown men’s birthright to publicly indulge every deviant thought they have in public, and forcing everyone to play along.

It’s like a somewhat alarming stress test to a system. Pick a case that seems too extreme and where you’d assume everyone’s response will be ‘haha. No’ and find to your alarm that isn’t the unanimous response. Some people will go into ‘identities are sacred and must be respected’ mode.

Then you need to really worry about what’s happening where it’s even slightly less obviously absurd.

That’s much more important than whether there is an epidemic of cat-identified teenagers.

@7worfs I know right!

It's not surprising that the school in Rye has denied that there is anyone identifying as a cat. They want to discredit the girls and save their reputation. I suspect the same is happening in other schools. What head wants to admit that it's pupils are identifying as animals and all that would open them up to? The Guardian is also known to gaslight any issues it feels uncomfortable about. WiSpa anyone?!

I'm wondering if they are going to change the dictionary definition of cat from adult feline to "adult felines and any other living creature that identifies as a cat." Or perhaps they will change it to "non-dog". It's not any crazier than changing the meaning of woman to "anyone who feels like a woman, whatever that is as we can't define it It's just a feeling and wearing a dress and lipstick. " Or the definition of lesbians to "non-men who are attracted to non-men".

So put them all on one class and leave the kids who are there to learn rather than muck about, play silly buggers, play with balls of wool, have meltdowns/dramas, fight with teachers…

"non-dog"

I’m hooting at this description of a 🐈

The teachers are telling lies as the NHS tells lies.

https://kreately.in/uk-hospital-covers-up-rape-in-all-female-ward-by-transgender-patient-woke-failure/#:~:text=A%20National%20Health%20Service%20%28NHS%29%20hospital%20in%20Britain,as%20there%20was%20%E2%80%9Cno%20male%E2%80%9D%20at%20the%20scene.

Batshit. The world has gone insane.

The answer is to film the abusive teachers, NHS staff and these unwell people, then send it to the media who have to disguise the children -if you are a colleague or service user.

They will lie and cover up for years otherwise. The general election is next year and the left will be in charge then, so this is our last hope.

I miss the old days. When you knew that everything in the Sun was made up nonsense.

Whereas the Guardian or Independent printed some approximation of the truth at least.

We all know about the problems getting correct healthcare when you identify as the wrong sex, so what’s on these furies health records? Will the NHS be forced to refer them for veterinary advice in the future in support of inclusion and diversity? And is a furie likely to identify with their real sex or be a trans furie? If they’re not a trans furie are they a cis furie?

I am waiting for the implosion and the sooner it happens the better for us all. Fucking unbelievable.

People who have invested in gender ideology, including media are going to pull all stops out to make sure biological reality can be buried.

Otherwise they’re caught in a lie.

It’s madness but that’s where it gets you

@FedgeHund absolutely, any whiff of bullshit & they need to be taped. Isn't it terrible that children have to resort to this to prove what they are being preached in school.. Not under the guise of debate but being told it's factual..
Then when they are being called out still that it's bullshit the old "be kind" chestnut is hammered out. Enough is enough.
Children should be allowed to say to argue & not accept that a girl is a boy because she thinks she is one.. Or a cat because she thinks she is one or to accept pronouns. Why is this being forced on children who don't want to or have to accept or believe it. They know there is two sexes.

Initially we were all told there will only ever be a tiny percentage of trans people in schools or who want to use single sex facilities.. Now look at schools or womens sports for example. It is not a tiny percentage..
What is to say the same won't happen happen with people identify as all sorts of objects or animals. They are going to demand their rights to live as they identify.. Who knows what the future holds but I'm sure in the not so distant future we will be seeing lots of "furry rights are human rights".
And why shouldn't they have rights.
If males who identify as females have rights to live as they choose why isn't the woman who identifies as a cat given rights to live her life as she identifies too?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/real-life/article-11187109/amp/What-therian-Seattle-woman-Naia-kami-identifies-wolf-shares-life-like.html

This man identifies as a woman & a wolf..