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Moonandstarzz · 25/06/2023 07:58

Are furries represented in the new flag?

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OldGardinia · 25/06/2023 09:57

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Moonandstarzz · 25/06/2023 11:12

It's an interesting article.

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WickedSerious · 25/06/2023 12:03

They're gonna need a bigger flag.

C1N1C · 25/06/2023 12:08

It's there already... ultraviolet star that you can only see under blacklight. It represents how they're in plain sight, but not.

Moonandstarzz · 25/06/2023 12:09

I really can't understand the new flag! Are the furries part of it? That article implies the furries are very much integrated in the lgbtq community..

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LonginesPrime · 25/06/2023 12:32

Many create their own ‘fursonas’
😁

So basically:

"LARPers sad because other people don't understand their interest in LARPing".

Just do your LARPing, fgs - obviously some people are going to want to avoid you, but why do you care?

Whenever I see furries complaining about the stigma they face, it reminds me of this from Arrested Development:

Furries widely accepted by lgbtq community according to this article. Are they represented in the new flag?
Moonandstarzz · 25/06/2023 12:42

I just hope the poor dogs in the local parks aren't horrified if the furries identifying as dogs start invading their personal dog off leash areas...

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OldGardinia · 25/06/2023 13:14

I would love to know under what grounds my post was deleted.

BlackForestCake · 25/06/2023 13:18

I would bet a substantial amount of money that the overwhelming majority of normal LGB people actually think furries are ridiculous and cringe.

Tukmgru · 25/06/2023 13:19

Short answer to your question; no. But it’s being used as a dogwhistle because flurries are weird. Basically, the steps of the incredibly puerile reasoning is:

’furries are adults who are playing make believe, so are paedophiles’

’trans is made up too, so paedophiles’

’trans is part of LGBT, so gays are paedophiles’

You’ll find though, that more likely than not, it’s the people pushing this disinformation that are the paedos. It’s called projection, and it’s very effective on the gullible.

isthisapieceofyourbrain · 25/06/2023 13:20

I feel so sorry children growing up with this nonsense. The world has gone mad!

RaininSummer · 25/06/2023 13:24

People don't need flags and recognition for their minority interests. If it isn't hurting anyone, just do it. Don't be weirded out though if people think you are odd. Furries ffs.

Yirk · 25/06/2023 13:30

Off thread a bit...but do human biological females have a flag of our own?

LonginesPrime · 25/06/2023 13:34

But it’s being used as a dogwhistle because flurries are weird.

And because furries are often associated with sexual deviance and BDSM, etc, in discussions and I can see how it's in the interests of gender ideologues to promote the spread of furries to anger morally conservative groups who oppose gender ideology for broadly different reasons from people viewing it from a gender critical perspective.

This is helpful in denouncing gender critical views because then gender ideologues can point to the "moral panic" around furries and liken it to the "moral panic" around gender ideology and trans issues. Which means that valid concerns around women's rights can be more readily dismissed as mere moral conservatism.

In reality, the furry movement isn't that weird at all - in the article, the young person describes dressing up, sharing memes and chats with other young people, meeting up in costume, etc, just like any young person might do with any other kind of LARPing or being a goth or emo or footballer or any other similar teen hobby or interest.

It feels like people within the movement perhaps want it to be perceived as special and radical, but in reality, it's just teenagers and young people building a sense of community around their interests, just like they've always done. They're no more special or in need of protection than the concert band kids or the chess club as a distinct class of people.

Nellodee · 25/06/2023 13:57

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SidewaysOtter · 25/06/2023 13:58

Moonandstarzz · 25/06/2023 07:58

Are furries represented in the new flag?

Well, they could make it actually furry, I suppose.

OldGardinia · 25/06/2023 13:58

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SidewaysOtter · 25/06/2023 13:59

Yirk · 25/06/2023 13:30

Off thread a bit...but do human biological females have a flag of our own?

I generally go with this one:

Furries widely accepted by lgbtq community according to this article. Are they represented in the new flag?
OldGardinia · 25/06/2023 14:03

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Yep. I don't know your specific example but it matches what I know. I'm not doing this whole middle ground 'not repesentative thing'. Weird and bizarre kinks and underage stuff is absolutely representative of the furry community. If there are people who just want to lightly pretend to be animals (why?) without a sexual component then they are the ones who are non-representative. Or else they're some young boy or girl who doesn't really understand the community that awaits them and just thinks it makes them special to wear cat ears to school.

Redebs · 25/06/2023 14:05

Off topic a bit, but the 'new' flag has a black and a brown stripe added now for black and brown people.
As though they are a separate category?
WTF!!!

Redebs · 25/06/2023 14:09

In the 1970s the PIE was considered by many to be a legit part of the struggle for queer rights.

Many, as in politicians and organisations.

winewolfhowls · 25/06/2023 14:11

I thought the flag was about sexualities originally? Now it seems to be any way that you are different can be included which I think takes the focus away from the gay rights movement and somehow manages to trivialise all that has been fought for in the past.

Whyjustwhy123 · 25/06/2023 14:18

I can’t imagine there is anything nice about a furry in this heat. Can you imagine the inside of those outfits? 🤮🥵

OldGardinia · 25/06/2023 14:18

Redebs · 25/06/2023 14:09

In the 1970s the PIE was considered by many to be a legit part of the struggle for queer rights.

Many, as in politicians and organisations.

And unfortunately not a small number of gay men.

Which really is just one more example of how lesbians and gays being put in the same grouping is a lot more artificial than it seems at first.