Thank you, thank you, thank you

[h1d1ng1npla1ns1ght]

I’m a gender critical feminist and I’ve recently stopped caring at all what men think. I don’t even start conversations about it, I just refuse to censor myself or let myself be silenced anymore. I have had open conversations with my female friends, and we all agree, but are rarely brave enough to talk in public about our sex-based abuse, discrimination, rights, and protections. I have been reading GC and radical feminist books voraciously, and I’m still self-conscious in public and nervous about what people will say. It is exhausting being a woman. It’s a bit less exhausting when you feel like you have an understanding, strong community of like-minded women around you. It was this lurking on this page that emboldened me. So, thank you, ladies. Thank you for giving me the guts to speak up, or at least to stop shutting up.

You are welcome.

Welcome too! I'm a novice in the game too. Cant believe how naive I was, and am. But massive thanks to mn.s on this thread for the education and kindness.
Keep it up!

Do you not ever stop and think how exhausting it is for trans-people being constantly abused and also facing misogyny?

Sometimes it is also important to put yourself in others' shoes.

Yeah it's also exhausting having your language policed constantly

Mmm, gosh - what must it be like to be constantly abused? No woman could possibly ever imagine...

@MishyJDI

"Do you not ever stop and think how exhausting it is for trans-people being constantly abused"

That's a very relevant comment Mishy. There is a thread at the moment on the UK trans subbreddit about transphobic abuse/transphobia that transpeople face and it seems, from the replies, that there isn't constant abuse and most transpeople go about there day just like everyone else.

I agree OP and I feel the same about this board! So helpful to know how many people see this damaging ideology for what it is and support the biological reality and safety of women and girls.

Solidarity to all my fellow GC women!

Women need a place where we can talk openly about the struggles and abuse we face specifically because of our sex, not our gender. I’m not saying trans women face no discrimination, I’m saying biological women face discrimination based on our biology. And people who transition from an oppressor class (male) to an oppressed class (female) should not try to co-opt every conversation women have about the discrimination and abuse we face. Much of the abuse I have suffered has been directly related to pregnancy and childbirth, no trans woman would understand those particular issues. I’m thanking the women here for giving me a place I can relate to other women about the struggles of being a woman.

I feel the same OP. So few of us feel that we can share our views openly in real life, particularly at work

@MishyJDI There is no mention of trans people in the original post. This appears to be a thread about women’s rights. Why have you chipped in with a post about trans people?

What?! 😂 OP said nothing about T people. Struth.

Solidarity, OP. It’s good to find like-minded women to open up to/with.

Perhaps @MishyJDI could start their own thread, could be interesting.

Congrats OP.

I imagine Mishy was a great help in emboldening the OP during her lurking!

Hi there, welcome. As this thread shows, men really don't like not being centred in all things always.

@h1d1ng1npla1ns1ght

You're obviously doing something right, you've attracted a dissenting voice! 😁

Just keep on doing what you are doing! Women can talk about women and what it means to be a woman without having to centre anyone else!

Regardless of what some people seem to think it's not a woman's job to think about the men!

And last time I checked we are still able to discuss one thing without having to be forced to consider other people first.

❤

If I hadn’t already peaked Mishy would peak me………….

I have found and still find it hugely liberating. It helps that the people who might challenge any views I express can’t argue their point, because it’s absolute nonsense. But I stopped caring about being called “transphobic” when I realised it meant I don’t want kids to be sterilised/mutilated, and I’m 100% confident I’m on the right side of history with that. Not even resident ploppers like Mishy believe that, which is why they avoid threads about kids getting their breasts cut off and such, they know it’s indefensible.

I think certain posters on this board have without a doubt solidified the thoughts of many a woman posting and lurking!

Although OP, don't you ever spare a thought for the Burmese people in Myanmar? Imagine how they feel in exile, torn from their family and friends.

The next time you feel you want to bang on about women's rights maybe stop and think for a minute. Think of the Burmese people.

Mishy is helpfully providing an object lesson in why women need so much energy and focus in trying to focus on, talk about, and defend our rights.

There are people out there who get VERY CROSS when women centre women.

Oh my goodness, ladies, your support and responses have made my day!