Thank you, thank you, thank you

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I’m a gender critical feminist and I’ve recently stopped caring at all what men think. I don’t even start conversations about it, I just refuse to censor myself or let myself be silenced anymore. I have had open conversations with my female friends, and we all agree, but are rarely brave enough to talk in public about our sex-based abuse, discrimination, rights, and protections. I have been reading GC and radical feminist books voraciously, and I’m still self-conscious in public and nervous about what people will say. It is exhausting being a woman. It’s a bit less exhausting when you feel like you have an understanding, strong community of like-minded women around you. It was this lurking on this page that emboldened me. So, thank you, ladies. Thank you for giving me the guts to speak up, or at least to stop shutting up.

I am both impressed and envious that you have managed to find opportunities to have open conversations with your friends. I suspect mine lay somewhere between “not caring in the slightest” and “#bekind”. A close friend shared a IG reel last week saying “I hope the transphobes have a very uncomfortable month” (in reference to pride) and it just makes me feel like a complete alien.

"trans people........also facing misogyny?"

Thank you Mishy for pointing out to us that we should also be aware of the misogyny shown to transmen because of their female sex.

I'm a woman and a Lesbian; I totally support my Sisters, our struggle...

and I don't give a damn about trans people

Oh no! A woman dared to discuss a women's rights issue without centring the TRANZ.

How very dare she. Wot a selfish cow!

Seems like as good a time as any to mention that Mishy and his mates were instrumental in hastening my ascent to the mountain top. Thanks, Mishy, PIE, Marbles and the rest!

And welcome, OP!

No, I can honestly say that this has never occurred to me.

Witherfork, I’m very careful with which friends I open up to. A few of them, all men, funnily enough, have become strident defenders of trans rights in the last few years, but recently I’ve decided I don’t really care about protecting those men’s feelings anymore. The people I’m most comfortable with are women who all had children around the same time as I did, and I think that bound us together. I’ve never had that sisterhood feeling before, it’s great! And regarding “be kind” I’m so sick of that message. It’s so tiresome, isn’t it? Be kind, smile more, think about other people’s feelings before your own, think about other people’s feelings before your safety. I’m just so over all of it.

I'm also fairly recently 'out' as GC. Feels so good to stop worrying & just let others disagree. They're rarely as steadfast in their beliefs as I am when we drill down

Mishy not knowing the answer to literally any questions I ask them helped to cement in my mind how many people are being dishonest about this.

I don't indulge dishonest people (by which I mean people who feel me to think things that they can't even define).

^"tell me to", not "feel me to"!

In my experience people see the gender ideology for the sexist claptrap it is - it relies on "female correlating with feminine", for God's sake - or they are very, very muddled about it. Most tend to be sympathetic for people with actual gender dysphoria, but we know that trans people say that is irrelevant to being trans.

Why don't you start your own thread instead of derailing this one?

That's not Mishy's style.

Ha! Right? Women have NEVER been constantly abused and subjected to misogyny, how ever could we understand?

If they are facing abuse and misogyny then I think most of us have spent more time in their shoes than they have

My little girl (2) has been suffering terribly with vulvar and vaginal irritation at night, and it make me so mad to think that a female's true felt and lived experiences, which start from birth, are being appropriated by men and reduced to a mere identity.
She doesn't identify as anything, yet, and here she is impacted by her sex. Female. Which she will continue to be no matter what she does going forward.

THE most protected minority in the country who can get away with basically anything they want, as evidenced in many, many, many youtubes videos of them, are doing perfectly fine. They only have to breathe to the police that their feelings have been hurt and 5 cops turn up to arrest you (as opposed to say being burgled/mugged and they give a crime number and don't even bother to attend).

Keep going MishyJDI
You are doing our job for us.

Hopping on here to suggest a course of Ovex for worms. Ask the pharmacist for the liquid as DD is still little and probably can't take tablets.

@AmbleInAnnBoleyn thank you so much for the advice! I will look in to it.

MishyJDI · Today 08:09

Do you not ever stop and think how exhausting it is for trans-people being constantly abused and also facing misogyny?

Do YOU not ever stop and think about not posting fact-free, entirely unsubstantiated rubbish?

No transw has, not ever will experience misogyny, which only women are unfortunate enough to be subjected to.

Doing a double take, or disagreeing politely is most emphatically NOT transphobic abuse.

HTH.

How does it go? ''The comments under any feminist post prove the need for feminism.''

Keep up the good work, everyone!

The way I see is that the LGB people were fine up until the Ts came along. And then the Qs. And then all varying shades of mental illness left incubating in the mess became all too apparent. I'm not a feminist, so I'm not a TERF, though I'm also not a TRA. TERFs only exist now because of the Ts infiltrating LGB. I suppose I am GC, though. There are only 2 genders, or rather, there are only 2 sexes and gender is a made-up word that is used to described masculine women, ie tomboys and effeminate men, ie whatever the word is for that, if it exists.

If you're gay, that's fine. If you're lesbian, that's fine. Just don't tell me you can switch sex and ignore your biology, because I won't give you an easy time of it.