More trouble for sturgeon and co ahead

[Hoardasurass]

Was going to post this on the other thread but it'd full so new 1
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/nicola-sturgeon-warned-not-delete-30204692?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

It was reported in the Times earlier in the week up here, but its still just speculation and "fears" from unnamed sources.
As for not proven yes that's a possible verdict in Scotland for now (the SNPs trying to do away with it). Basically you get 1 of 3 verdicts, Guilty as in you didn't, Not Guilty as in we don't think you did it and Not proven as in were think you did it but can't prove it. I don't think that the rest of the UK has a not proven verdict

That is not what a 'Not Proven' verdict means at all.

The incongruous verdicts in Scots courts are 'Guilty' and 'Not Guilty' as they are imports from English Law. It is literally the task of Scots juries to decide whether a prosecution case is 'Proven' or 'Not Proven'. If we got rid of the 'Guilty' and 'Not Guilty' imports and used the original Scots verdicts then perhaps this nonsense about 'Not Proven' being in any way different to 'Not Guilty' would cease to be repeated.

@XDownwiththissortofthingX I'm afraid that the sheriff who presided over the case I was a juror on would disagree with you

Then the sheriff needs re-educated. XDown is correct.

Or maybe you took your own beliefs into the jury room, because that's not an unusual belief. There's also a belief that "not proven" means "can be retried at a later date", nope. Not proven is exactly the same as not guilty in Scots law.

The Explanatory Notes to the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill state that, if passed, the Bill would remove the Not Proven verdict, leaving only Guilty and Not Guilty. Whilst the result for the accused is the same, ie they are acquitted, it would not be accurate to describe yourself as having been found Not Guilty if the verdict was Not Proven, or vice versa and all three options are currently available in Scotland, although maybe not for much longer. Rape Crisis Scotland ran a campaign on it too:

https://www.rapecrisisscotland.org.uk/campaigns-end-not-proven/

Info on the Bill here, currently at Stage 1:

https://www.parliament.scot/bills-and-laws/bills/victims-witnesses-and-justice-reform-scotland-bill/introduced

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1794382/snp-nicola-sturgeon-police-investigation-finances
Finally we hear what it will take to suspend Stergeon

I think if not proven goes there will be more not guilty verdict. Whether that is a good thing or not I have no idea:

They're effectively the same thing.

that may be true but they aren’t perceived to be

It would make no practical difference.

Doesn't your heart bleed for the poor old boy (he's the picture on the left)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12372455/Scottish-police-chief-Nicola-Sturgeon-SNP-finances-probe.html

Sniggers.
You'll need to click on the image

Did you hear the suggestion for the title of Sturgeon's memoirs?

Mein Kampervan 😂😂

😂

Well she would, wouldn't she

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12393945/Nicola-Sturgeon-no-regrets-transgender-law-Scottish-independence.html

JENNY REGRETTY REEN

😁French accent in caps!!!

She has a lot of interest in French, if the rumours are to be believed.

LAVVY IN ROSE

Zero recall

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/angus-macneil-expelled-snp-after-30677740

The SNP aren’t interested in independence? Crikey

The SNP has abandoned its own voters, why should their own MPs be any different?

What a complete farce. They have done incredible damage to the people of Scotland and the cause of independance. A poundshop banana republic leadership. Even their corruption smacks of cheapness and incompetence.

Not since Nicola took over, no. Hence the founding of ISP (Independence for Scotland) and Alba, both of which want independence and know what a woman is.