Anyone else feel Pride is really toned down this year?

[Moonandstarz]

I was shopping yesterday evening in my local shopping centre & besides Primark & Schuh no other stores had a pride window display or even a sticker on the window. Flying Tiger had rainbow merchandise on the window but not specifically pride.
Precious years we had rainbow crossings in the car park, rainbow flags everywhere. Nothing like that this year.

In my opinion this toned down pride is much more inclusive & is signalling everyone is getting on with their lives & co existing. May just be my area but I found it very refreshing.

I don’t know either but I rolled my eyes inwardly at a local dog behaviourist who advertised the same and moved onto the next person on my list. I just want someone to train my dog, their views on gender identity is completely and utterly irrelevant to me.

I suppose maybe that they would be happy to provide flowers to same sex weddings etc? It makes sense in that context but its odd to put in this day and age since I would assume most places would (I know there is still plenty of homophobia about, but people actively refusing to supply flowers would, fortunately, be fairly unnusual)

PRIDE is crucial in showing these people that their prejudices aren't supported by society as a whole

Ah, that's the new version of what Pride is for. "Society as a whole". That's massive overreach. Not everyone in society supports every single thing that Pride (claims to) stand for. A lot of LGBT people themselves don't, for starters. And yet if anyone dissents about just one thing they're in the wrong and they're assumed to be anti everything and everyone that Pride stands for.

Thank you for explaining.

I called into the second shop and the florist was pretty camp. Not for me to decide whether he was gay or not, nor did I care. I just wanted flowers and straightforward efficient service.

So that's a "yes" then.

You know best!

Gay people have been refused service in lots of different venues, including florists.

Nice to see you dismiss advertising that they don't discriminate as "virtue signalling". Even in this day and age, gay couples don't always know where they can go without being discriminated against.

Better than you, that much is clear.

I don't believe that for a second @Astralitzia as if anyone is discriminated against in that matter they are within their rights to sue. I believe organisations like that are virtue signalling, why just say lgb friendly? Do they list every other minority group also? Or are they just singling out lgb? 🤔

No, I avoid anti-trans stuff

Lesbians not wanting to service heterosexual men who claim to be women and lesbians to boot, is anti-trans righto. Seems you are no supporter of homosexual people then despite all your protestations to the contrary on this thread and labelling others dislike of Pride as homophobia. Telling homosexuals that their sexual attraction should be gender based rather than sex based is the very definition of homophobia, so perhaps you should take a closer look at yourself before labelling others homophobic.

@Astralitzia it's not necessary to advertise your if your business is lgb friendly or otherwise . Just looked up florists in my area none have labelled themselves lgb friendly. Do I assume all are hostile so?
I would assume they would take whatever business comes their way especially in this cost of living crisis!
That is not ignorant or naive as you have referred to be as. Name calling is unnecessary thank you.

"Ignorant and naive" is not namecalling.

And no, you obviously don't have to assume all other florists are hostile, but gay people may find it useful if a florist does say they are LGB friendly.

Just because you can't conceive of something doesn't make it bad.

If a business advertises that they're wheelchair accessible, is that also "virtue signalling"?

@Astralitzia no it's not virtue signalling as a company is letting wheelchair users their disability is being catered for!

Are you actually saying being lgbqt is a disability?!!!!

And you are calling me ignorant & naive!

Yes, and the florist is letting gay couples know that their wedding / event is being catered for.

And no, I am not saying being LGBQT is a disability. You would know that if you had an ounce of reading comprehension.

"Ignorant and naive" is not namecalling.

Calling another poster "ignorant and naive" is a personal attack.

And saying gay people don't face discrimination is homophobia.

Which is worse I wonder.

@Astralitzia you made a direct comparison between lgbqt & wheelchair users. Lgbqt is not a disability! I cannot believe you actually posted that.
Out of 12 florists in my area not one has listed what clients they cater too. They list events they cater for but not "who".. I would imagine because everyone is catered for 🙄

Being disabled and being homosexual are two protected characteristics.

Why is advertising you are accomodating to one OK but the other "virtue signalling"?

Because wheelchair users actually need these facilities to access places!!! I cannot fathom how you have compared homosexuality to having a physical disability.
I really hope to God that you are not advocating for the lgbqt community in real life 🙄

@Astralitzia You mean your florists don’t advertise that they are disabled people friendly? Or black people friendly? It’s almost as if they don’t see the need…

Otoh, if I see a shop or service advertising that they are LGBTQ+ then I’ll take my money elsewhere as I don’t want to inadvertently give it to someone who supports the TRA extremists. I guess it’s a risk you take as a business.

Apologies, that to @Moonandstarz

Ha ha ha ha ha. Because suing people is free, and court cases would never completely take over your life, and there is no homophobia in society.

And being turned away by a business on the grounds of your sexuality isn't embarrassing, distressing or logistically difficult.

Probably only happens to the gays who are too 'camp' or the 'lesbians' who aren't normal enough though, so who cares? 🤷‍♀️

Let's see:

Wheelchair user friendly
Child friendly
Visually impaired friendly
Jew friendly
Black friendly
LGBT friendly

The first three make sense, as there are reasons why you'd to let your customers know.
Why noone would dream of stating 'Jew/Black friendly', but LGBT is allegedly ok?

Exactly @IamAporcupine ! Why is it OK to list one subset of the population but not other minority groups?
Have also seen pet friendly listed on cafe websites ..

I can't believe that @Astralitzia has actually compared being lgbqt to wheelchair users. Lgbqt is not a disability!