Anyone else feel Pride is really toned down this year?

[Moonandstarz]

I was shopping yesterday evening in my local shopping centre & besides Primark & Schuh no other stores had a pride window display or even a sticker on the window. Flying Tiger had rainbow merchandise on the window but not specifically pride.
Precious years we had rainbow crossings in the car park, rainbow flags everywhere. Nothing like that this year.

In my opinion this toned down pride is much more inclusive & is signalling everyone is getting on with their lives & co existing. May just be my area but I found it very refreshing.

And we're all bored of people walking around waving rainbow flags now, and most people,certainly do not want to see a parade of fetish and kink in public spaces in which they have not consented to see this.

Exactly -

Christmas - pain in the neck/ try for damage limitation

St Patricks day - I think is the one I hate most. Everyone wanst to get drunk - grim and surely insluting to the Irish - BUT at leats it is 1 day

Easter - not as bananas as the others so I will take that one - I mean who can complain about daffodils and chocolate?

Halloween - too long too expensive

Pride month - way too long and way to much forcus on actual sex. I just want to buy milk, please put your penis away and no - I am not penis phobic. I quite enjoy them actually!

And so on .

For me there is a commercial imperative that drives it and always over eggs the pudding.

Why would you immediately consider lesbians having the right to set a boundary around who they do and don't sleep with without being shouted at, insulted, threatened and having what they say badged as "hate speech" as "anti-trans"? I thought you wanted lesbians to be able to be visibly 'out'?

Or do you believe lesbians can have penises and men can be women? You might want to have another try at that critical thinking, if so...and check your own homophobia before you accuse others.

Why not @SarahAndQuack you've been debating & defending Pride through out this thread!
@MissLucyEyelesbarrow brilliant point made right there!

Lesbians must include male-bodied people in their dating pool.

That ^^ is about as homophobic as it gets. It’s straight out of the old school 70s bigots’ handbook.

Definitely not the case where I am. I’ve never seen so much about it. And we still have three weeks to go.

In Tesco today doing some food shopping and instead of mood music playing over the tannoy there was a guy (presumably Tesco employee ) telling the story of how he came out first to his Tesco Manager and how supportive everyone at work was. Out and proud or oversharing? Disclaimer...my daughter is married to a woman.

Is it just me or is it usually the fully-partnered-up-with-an-actual-woman lesbians that seem to be just fine with transwomen in lesbian groups and like to call people who dissent anti-trans? I wonder why that is.

Every week in the Sunday Times style mag, queer, bi or trans feature heavily. I’m not buying it anymore. It’s way out of proportion. Even the Washington Post has a daily trans section. There’s no escape from any of this.

😁

Straight people also ‘feature heavily?

Tough. Gay people exist everywhere, including in your supermarkets, so you're just going to have to deal with it.

Maybe @SarahAndQuack, who’s suddenly gone quiet, can help enlighten….

The 2021 census has answered that for England & Wales: it asked everyone over 16 about both sexual orientation and gender identity.

1.5% of the population identify as gay/lesbian, 1.3% as Bi, 89% as heterosexual, 0.3% as 'any other' . The rest did not answer.

For the question, Is the gender you identify with the same as your sex registered at birth?, 93.5% said yes, 0.5% (262,000 people) said no, the rest did not answer.

This may be another reason why retailers are not going so big on Pride this year, especially on the trans aspect. If your total trans adult market is 262,000 people, and it is increasingly clear that you risk alienating at least a chunk of the non-trans adults by promoting transition, it doesn't make financial sense to do so.

I'm not sure it's toned down to be honest.

However, I think people are getting less receptive to it.

It's too long and too much, especially when combined with various others "days" to celebrate LGBT perspectives.

Frankly I think it's just become over commercialised and over exposed and begs the question about why over a 12th of the year is devoted to one cause and the remaining eleven devoid of anything on remotely the same scale, for people who are arguably facing equally (if not more) societal challenges.

Astralizia
I'm not sure why anyone would find pride horrible to think about or find it horrible to see rainbow flags. Unless……..

they have had enough of the TQ agenda especially when it is aimed at children.

I now find it very horrible indeed.

Pride is incredibly important and it's vital that we continue to celebrate it to show the world, especially people who might not come across many LGB people and families in their day to day life, that they exist. So many people who claim that no-one cares if someone is gay/lesbian are the same people who will snigger and make comments behind their back, so PRIDE is crucial in showing these people that their prejudices aren't supported by society as a whole. We are never going to be in a situation where LG couples are just as common as straight couples, so it's important for their to be some representation.

That said, the whole trans/queer being linked to Pride needs to stop. Trans people have nothing in common with LGB people and in many cases actively try and claim that LG orientations don't exist.

I'd also bet that companies have stopped creating a whole load of rainbow merchandise because simply, it doesn't sell. The majority of straight people aren't going to buy it, and even most LGB people won't want to spend the prices they charge on some tat that will just end up in the bin. The worst was the 'LGBT' sandwich for some retailer (M&S?) a few years ago, I still can't quite understand the thought process who thought that would be a good idea, or a profitable idea.

@RudsyFarmer that is exactly it. Lgb is absolutely normalised, I think that's why there's so little fanfare in my town this month. We are all happily co existing the way it should be, no plastic rainbows needed.
I'm sure the parade at the end month will vibrant & very well supported as always!

Absolutely this!

It is beyond appalling that you think gay people face no more discrimination than people with blue eyes.

Yeah you're right, that's why gay people no longer get murdered or beaten up for being gay.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-60257602

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/pair-injured-homophobic-attack-south-bank-b1019750.html

https://news.met.police.uk/news/appeal-following-homophobic-assault-in-stratford-464112

https://www.gazetteseries.co.uk/news/23456136.couple-left-bruised-jaw-nosebleed-homophobic-attack/

I could go on, and on, and on, and on.

But sure, gay people have acceptance.

Pride isn’t about highlighting the discrimination that gay people face - that ship was hijacked and sailed a while ago.