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Remember Petra Wenham? The first transwoman to be on the WI mag cover?

120 replies

Clymene · 05/06/2023 05:50

Wenham transitioned at 68 and promptly joined the WI where they were terribly welcoming. The magazine cover features Wenham coyly peeping from behind a tree and gushing about the sisterhood in the press coverage

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/21276923.suffolk-retiree-becomes-first-trans-woman-appear-cover-wi-magazine/

Well, you'll never guess what's happened now? Wenham has now been appointed to the National Federation of Women's institutes membership committee.

https://twitter.com/womensins_dec/status/1664887571820806146?s=61&t=gd6tu0Iz6JpyKXGLWMLGjg

I'm sure you'll all join me in being shocked. AngryAngryAngry

We can have nothing for ourselves

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CraggyIslandTouristBoard · 05/06/2023 13:35

nauticant · 05/06/2023 07:46

I thought The Onion was a satirical publication. Perhaps this was satirical when it was published in 2007 but honestly it reads like a straight piece now.

Like a press release for that man in Scotland who got appointed as a period officer (or whatever the job title was).

Or the self-congratulatory announcements during International Women’s Day that a man trans woman had been lined up as the keynote speaker 😞

OvaHere · 05/06/2023 13:50

I imagine there's many women who have put decades of work into the WI who have had barely a mention in the magazine never mind a photo cover. Or who have never got anywhere near a place on the management committee.

Such a glittering trajectory for someone who found gender so late in life.

VeronicaBeccabunga · 05/06/2023 13:51

Thanks.
I emailed them earlier today, as yet no response.
Won't be rejoining, by the looks of things which is a shame as I enjoyed being a member of a group that was founded to meet the needs of women.

Spaceforbiologicalfemalesonly · 05/06/2023 13:54

If you do leave the WI please write to Federation and whoever is in charge stating your reasons why. I think I’m right in thinking that they don’t ask why people leave. At least this was the case when I brought up a case of bullying and the numbers of people then leaving my then current WI. The dept. Federation Chair at the time said they didn’t ask why people leave.

Also, I’ve been looking at the NWR as I’d not heard of it. Can’t see anything about their stance on trans women etc. Can anyone enlighten me?

Zeugma · 05/06/2023 13:58

I saw a twitter thread a few weeks back where a group had disbanded to end being harassed by men insisting on attending and instead begun to meet as friends at one of their houses. The men turned up on the drive, demanded admission, and called the police to have their 'rights' enforced when the women said no. Thankfully the police told them they had no right at all to enter a private home uninvited

JFC.

ButtonSister · 05/06/2023 14:04

I help run a long standing craft group that since COVID is struggling to get members. It is for women and men but as far as I know has never had a male join. I am thinking that if we rebadge it as a women's group membership from trans women will soar (from zero) and our financial problems will be over.

Spaceforbiologicalfemalesonly · 05/06/2023 14:15

DH is a mason. Asked him if transmen were allowed to join. Absolutely not was his response.
BUT I’ve gone and seen if I can look it up, if you join as a biological man and then ‘become’ female you don’t have to leave. BUT you can only join if you’ve had surgery to be a male. (based on a doc from 2018, so might be old info now).

what I really want to know is where was this vote the WI had for letting in trans women. Was it across all members or just at federation committee level? Anyone know?

loislovesstewie · 05/06/2023 14:40

Glad I never joined, one thing I don't need is a man being held up as an example of how to be a woman. FFS! ( sorry I rarely swear but I'm so fed up with this)

CandidaAlbicans2 · 05/06/2023 21:07

Buffypaws · 05/06/2023 06:27

I would like to encourage all WI members to defect to the Women’s Rights Network.

That sounds right up my street, thanks for mentioning it 😃. Fingers crossed there's a group near me as I want to connect with other women (as Ricky Gervais said, the old fashioned type, not the ones with penises 😁) but haven't known how to.

DarkDayforMN · 06/06/2023 18:58

I saw a twitter thread a few weeks back where a group had disbanded to end being harassed by men insisting on attending and instead begun to meet as friends at one of their houses. The men turned up on the drive, demanded admission, and called the police to have their 'rights' enforced when the women said no. Thankfully the police told them they had no right at all to enter a private home uninvited.

that’s terrifying! Do you still have the twitter link?

ZeldaFighter · 06/06/2023 19:02

Well, I'm inspired by Petra's story. Only been in the WI for a few years - only actually been a woman for a few years! And now she's on the management committee.

It shows other women that you just need to work hard, put the effort in and you'll succeed 😀 oh, and be a man. That's the easiest way to succeed.

nilsmousehammer · 06/06/2023 19:10

DarkDayforMN · 06/06/2023 18:58

I saw a twitter thread a few weeks back where a group had disbanded to end being harassed by men insisting on attending and instead begun to meet as friends at one of their houses. The men turned up on the drive, demanded admission, and called the police to have their 'rights' enforced when the women said no. Thankfully the police told them they had no right at all to enter a private home uninvited.

that’s terrifying! Do you still have the twitter link?

https://twitter.com/thefakehelena/status/1661419933354295308?cxt=HHwWmICw5Y6oxo4uAAAA

https://twitter.com/thefakehelena/status/1661419933354295308?cxt=HHwWmICw5Y6oxo4uAAAA

DarkDayforMN · 06/06/2023 19:32

Thank you! That Twitter OP seems like a fantastic person. Hope she’s ok, how scary to have these men showing up on your doorstep.

nilsmousehammer · 06/06/2023 21:40

The entitlement seems to know no bounds.

When you think those individuals wished to invade a private home where women were trying to support each other with sensitive information - it's bloody obvious they wanted nothing more than to prevent the group being allowed to happen, and to intimidate and control those women.

They didn't want to participate. They had no fucks to give about the women involved or the purpose of the group. It was purely about coercive control. And no remaining grip on reality.

EpicChaos · 07/06/2023 00:51

@Spaceforbiologicalfemalesonly " what I really want to know is where was this vote the WI had for letting in trans women. Was it across all members or just at federation committee level? Anyone know? "

Yes, i was wondering that too. Who was allowed to vote for petra to have a place on the committee? Don't the wider membership get a say? If not, that's very unfair.
I did see a meme with Les Dawsons Cissy, or was it Ada, hugging the tree which was quite funny.

HowdidImanagetohavetwoaccountaandthenloseboth · 11/06/2023 13:15

Probably outing but I don’t care.
I am a WI member . Recently I attended the annual conference in Cardiff. It necessitated an overnight stay. To save money I decided it would be ok to share a room.

it was only after I decided this I realised to my horror that there was a possibility I could end up with a male. But if I complained I would probably be outed as a witch.

I didn’t simply because it the moment the likelihood is to small , but I really now worry how many bloody men we now get joining the WI due to bloody Peter Dunham and his supersonic rise in the WI to being on the membership board.

I am furious about this but don’t know where to go with it. I don’t want to leave in protest because the WI won’t even notice if I do , and I would miss the activities I enjoy.

I am very aware that some of my friends have embraced his joining with open arms . They are very influential on the unofficial camps organisation. I would love to go on those too. ( and stay in a dorm) but it can only be a matter of time before he turns up to one of them too.

Baldieheid · 11/06/2023 14:03

I see this as simple theft. It's identity theft. Its the theft of a resource that is supposedly only for women. It's the theft of women's peace of mind, their privacy, their choice and their entitlement to say "no".

These males are thieves.

WomensInstituteDeclaration · 11/06/2023 20:24

@WittynotPretty have you joined us? Can't post email address here, but here's the website
wdwi.co.uk

WittynotPretty · 11/06/2023 20:32

@WomensInstituteDeclaration yes, signed the petition and, I’m please to report, several members of my WI branch DM’d me to say they’d thought the same but hadn’t been brave enough to raise it with the committee. Well, I’ve well and truly outed myself on our local message board now! And I’m not sorry 😎

WomensInstituteDeclaration · 11/06/2023 20:41

That's amazing, I've updated the website today and some other stuff has been happening behind the scenes too. Thanks for your support.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 11/06/2023 20:45

Infiltrate and destroy from within.

It's what all these men do and has been the plan from the get go.

Get a foot in the door of anything women only, then demand the rules and policies change to pander to their 'gender' nonsense and if the women dare to say no they destroy it.
Because if they can't have access then women can't have it either.

Typical male domination and entitlement.
We see through it. We see the fetishists. That's why they hate us.

watcherintherye · 11/06/2023 21:04

7Worfs · 05/06/2023 06:37

No doubt this person felt a calling to leadership to show women how to “women” properly.

No one can woman like a transwoman, don’tcha know. Not even people who have been womaning since birth, apparently.

Spaceforbiologicalfemalesonly · 06/09/2023 14:14

Eurgh. Just got my WI mag. They are gushing about all their trans goodness.

it’s been launched into the bin.

just waiting quietly for others in my group to realise what’s going on, it still blindingly obvious most group members haven’t got a clue.

RealityFan · 06/09/2023 14:22

Looking forwards to all the local Lodges, Divorced Tractor Drivers Support Groups, and Andrew Tate Appreciation Societies etc allowing in all the female wannabe male confused characters, and then let them run the show.