Countering trans suicide figures

[Walkingtheplank]

DD asked I'd we could talk about trans issues/female rights yesterday. All very calm but ultimately we disagree on key points.

She raised the point that trans teens are more like to (try to) commit suicide.

Can anyone add a link here to a article explaining why this is not true so that I can share it with her?

@TeaKlaxon "The number of suicides among trans young people is tiny in the context the number of suicides in young people as a whole"

Is that so? Odd given how much the trans propaganda troupe bangs on about suicide in trans kids. By now trans children are well above 1 in 100, so considering that they supposedly committ suicide at such high rates, you'd expect the proportion of the overall of young people to be quite a bit above "tiny".

nepeta Today 19:33
Re your post beginning
This is such a confusing topic and also a difficult topic to research, partly, because there are so many different questions people want to have answers for…..

I cannot answer you with useful information worthy of your thoughtful post evidently analytical abilities but wondered if Dr Kaltiala might.

The Finnish adolescent psychiatrist Dr Riittakerttu Kaltiala, who was the head of the leading gender clinic in Finland and who is an expert in paediatric gender medicine, stopped prescribing puberty blockers and cross sex hormones, said in the interview with Leo Sapir
https://twitter.com/LeorSapir/status/1620448081039994881

“Activists... calling for hormone treatments for minors & legal gender recognition often repeat that trans youth have an increased risk of suicide & therefore urgently need care & support. "It's purposeful disinformation, & spreading it is irresponsible,"

and,

“….it is not justified to tell the parents of young people identifying as transgender that a young person is at risk of suicide without medical treatments and that the danger can be alleviated with gender reassignment”

I am not sure if she based this view on her experience over the years, or has had recourse to a study, but I found a list of her
published articles here, and there also seemed to be a box to click to contact her.
Perhaps someone might like to try asking her.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Riittakerttu-Kaltiala/2

Looking through her publications here though I gave up trying to see if she had researched suicide specifically.

What they do seem to show is that her earlier experience of adolescent psychiatry in general, rather than as it relates to those with gender dysphoria with whom she has worked in her role at the gender clinic, places her in a good position for having a sense of the relative rates of suicide among unhappy adolescents.

So it’s one of two things. Either:

Gender questioning children, labelled by TRAs as “trans children” have been and are likely to kill themselves at such a dramatic rate to make medical transition a life-saving necessity that it should be easy to demonstrate such a statistic.

OR

It’s not possible to adequately demonstrate such a statistic and as such there is no way in hell children should be medically transitioned based on such a flimsy claim.

Which is it? Either show us how bad it’s been or stop transitioning children.

Going back to basics, even the NHS Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) website states that "suicide is extremely rare".

Kathleen Stock’s book “Material Girls” has a section about this that lays out concisely what is flawed about the suicide and murder rates that are always brought up.

@Clymene can you please post the correct figure or give the figure number? I need to understand. Thanks