Boycott Target song now no.1 on iTunes

[PorcelinaV]

No. 1 in US charts.

[PorcelinaV]

https://nypost.com/2023/05/30/boycott-target-song-tops-charts-as-rapper-claims-censorship/

[Hoardasurass]

That's 1 earworm of a song 🤣

[PorcelinaV]

Apparently a previous song has the lyric:

"Got like two bitches fucking two bitches. That’s four bitches in my trailer. Yeah, I nutted in all them bitches."

So he isn't necessarily consistent with either GC or conservative values. But that's pro lesbian I guess.

[VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia]

• 29. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. Nothing more and nothing less.
• Someone who is anti-woman is not my ally, even if he agrees with me about biological sex being immutable.
• Someone who is anti-homosexual does not get my support.

Do not mistake the alt far right for materialist feminists.

[miri1985]

An American beauty youtuber I follow on instagram put up a sponsored post about an item that was launching in Target this week, I was shocked that about 90% of the comments were people saying that they were boycotting Target

[MerlinsLostMarbles]

Asking in good faith- how do you keep up with all the stores and products you have to boycott? Seriously it's like something new every week. Do you make lists of companies that sell LGBT products or put up rainbow flags etc?

[Coyoacan]

@MerlinsLostMarbles

You know perfectly well it is nothing about rainbow flags. From what I saw of the products people were complaining about it was everything from breastbinders to pedophilia material

[VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia]

@MerlinsLostMarbles

Asking in good faith- how do you keep up with all the stores and products you have to boycott? Seriously it's like something new every week. Do you make lists of companies that sell LGBT products or put up rainbow flags etc?

You seem to assume a boycott of all things LGBT-related by materialist feminists, when in fact the Target boycotters are largely so-called "alt-right" and religious conservatives. I will proudly refuse to spend my money with any company that supports the child sterilisation advocates known as "Mermaids". This list is likely to stay short as the extent of Mermaids' improper behaviour in respect of sending binders to children and lying about meetings with GIDS comes out and companies back away. Mermaids supporters are the only companies who I will boycott.

I will also, for my own protection, not buy from a company whose business practices place women at risk. Do not mistake this for a boycott, a boycott is done because of principles, not self-protection. Selling to male transitioners does not have to mean endangering women. My bra vendor sells to transitioning males and I still shop there because the fitting rooms provide sufficient privacy and the fitters are all female.

I wonder how many LGB people in the USA might sympathise with or even join the boycott of Target? Many LGB and trans people have criticised how we and our fights for civil rights are exploited through the commercialisation of Pride. When companies splatter rainbows on everything and set up stalls at Pride events, they take advantage of all the work done by us and our forebears in making it "OK to be gay" and come along to reap the profits only when it is safe for them, once "OK to be gay" is no longer controversial. Like the alt-right neo-cons same old misogynists of that "music" video and the religious conservatives, I find myself sick of Pride, but for very different reasons: I'm sick of being exploited for profit. Where were Barclays Bank when I was growing up under Section 28? I feel like the rainbow flag has been stolen from me by companies who would drop it again as soon as it ceased to be profitable. Maybe these Target boycotters will do me an unintentional favour by getting fauxtivist companies to stop usurping a flag that was never theirs to monetise.

[VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia]

@Coyoacan

@MerlinsLostMarbles

You know perfectly well it is nothing about rainbow flags. From what I saw of the products people were complaining about it was everything from breastbinders to pedophilia material

I've had a look online. The binders and tuck-friendly swimwear is only sold in adult sizes. The video claiming otherwise misrepresented the situation, describing an adult swimsuit as being from the children's section. (It might have been found there, but that doesn't mean it was meant to be there.)

I object to the child and baby clothing with statements like "gay" and "queer" on them. Children aren't aware of their sexuality until puberty and labelling them beforehand is inappropriate because no one can predict the future. We don't put kids in clothes that say "straight", so this isn't about being homo/bi/transphobic, it's about respecting a child's right not to be sexualised at a young age.

In principle, I support genderless clothing for prepubescent children because there's nothing wrong with a boy liking ponies or a girl liking trains and there's no substantial body shape difference at stage of development. Clothing at that age should all be in one section marked "children's". The Pride collection fails in its execution by giving genderless clothes a different and equally pointless set of labels. Labelling the clothes as "non-binary" or "trans" or "queer" is inappropriate because again this is labelling children too early. Many children questioning their gender identity stop during puberty, so let them go through puberty before expecting them to pick labels.

So yes, if I lived state-side, I'd join this boycott, not because I dislike LGB or trans people, but because I think that applying queer theory and sexuality labels to children is flat wrong and harmful to the children.

[Brisland]

Asking in good faith- how do you keep up with all the women’s rights activists and gender critical feminists you feel you have to disparage and attack? Seriously it's like someone new is targeted every week. Do you make lists of women and their supporters that speak for women’s rights or put up 💚🤍💜 ribbons, etc?

🤷🏽‍♀️

[VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia]

The problem here is that there are genuine safeguarding concerns about the Target Pride collection, which any reasonable person would balk at. Anti-gay and anti-trans people will use these real issues to drive a backlash against LGB and trans people. We (LGB and trans) people need to kick the fetishists and puppy players out of the Pride parades and shout a big "hell no" to anyone who wants to label a child and reinstate safeguarding based on an understanding that children should be protected from having adult concepts of sexuality and gender identity imposed on them and that sexual orientation and (lack of) gender identity are for the child to figure out in their own time.

Gay acceptance isn't putting a baby in a "gay" onsie, it's telling that child that you will love them regardless of their sexual orientation.

[VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia]

@VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia

You seem to assume a boycott of all things LGBT-related by materialist feminists, when in fact the Target boycotters are largely so-called "alt-right" and religious conservatives. I will proudly refuse to spend my money with any company that supports the child sterilisation advocates known as "Mermaids". This list is likely to stay short as the extent of Mermaids' improper behaviour in respect of sending binders to children and lying about meetings with GIDS comes out and companies back away. Mermaids supporters are the only companies who I will boycott.

I will also, for my own protection, not buy from a company whose business practices place women at risk. Do not mistake this for a boycott, a boycott is done because of principles, not self-protection. Selling to male transitioners does not have to mean endangering women. My bra vendor sells to transitioning males and I still shop there because the fitting rooms provide sufficient privacy and the fitters are all female.

I wonder how many LGB people in the USA might sympathise with or even join the boycott of Target? Many LGB and trans people have criticised how we and our fights for civil rights are exploited through the commercialisation of Pride. When companies splatter rainbows on everything and set up stalls at Pride events, they take advantage of all the work done by us and our forebears in making it "OK to be gay" and come along to reap the profits only when it is safe for them, once "OK to be gay" is no longer controversial. Like the alt-right neo-cons same old misogynists of that "music" video and the religious conservatives, I find myself sick of Pride, but for very different reasons: I'm sick of being exploited for profit. Where were Barclays Bank when I was growing up under Section 28? I feel like the rainbow flag has been stolen from me by companies who would drop it again as soon as it ceased to be profitable. Maybe these Target boycotters will do me an unintentional favour by getting fauxtivist companies to stop usurping a flag that was never theirs to monetise.

This I wrote before I was aware of the "gay" onesies. I was aware of religious people boycotting anything with a rainbow on it and thought the latest Target rumpus was more of the same. I was not aware of anyone selling products that label and sexualise kids until the last few hours.

[BonfireLady]

Bud Light was the warning sign but this is now loud and clear. It's time to put as much distance as possible between UK gender critical views and the religious/conservative US right wing views.

There are a small number of voices calling out the GC aspects of this whilst still supporting LGBT people (@VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia , your posts above all make a lot of sense to me on this) but mostly it's just about teaming up anything that's not "heteronormative" and discriminating against it.

The fact that this is number 1 in the charts is awful. Just as men shooting cans of Bud Light etc is awful, presumably seeing a trans woman who drinks their favourite beer as a question about their own manliness - which needed a manly answer, lest they themselves might look gay or trans.

[Ereshkigalangcleg]

I'm sick of being exploited for profit. Where were Barclays Bank when I was growing up under Section 28? I feel like the rainbow flag has been stolen from me by companies who would drop it again as soon as it ceased to be profitable. Maybe these Target boycotters will do me an unintentional favour by getting fauxtivist companies to stop usurping a flag that was never theirs to monetise.

Yes, it's usually quite stark how much of the Pride branding is used by these large companies in marketing aimed at their Middle Eastern markets. i.e. none. But they really want to make a difference, right?

[PatatiPatatras]

I see that once again women are asked to solve the problems of the world. Yeah, nah.

America has an enormous problem of forced teaming and identity politics.
And we are not a small number of voices who know the difference between sexuality and personality.
We are about 50%of the population.

I am not going to do any extra work because you want me to signal my allyship. What's happening now is a highly predictable consequence of not listening to women in the first place.

[Needmoresleep]

Where were Barclays Bank when I was growing up under Section 28?

Investing in an apartheid South Africa.

Great post by the way, VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia.

I am content to leave people to their views as long as they don't interfere with the rights of others, especially the most vulnerable: TRAs alt-right etc. I am happy to test my own views by identifying where I disagree with theirs.

I loathe rainbow washing and virtue signalling. Choosing a florist last week I dismissed the one that said "LGBT friendly", and was pleased to discover the alternative was owned by gay man. I hated it when Barclays added a rainbow to their app. The rainbow has started to represent misogyny.

All good then when another group with different views from my own, noisily boycott a virtue signally business. My silent protest against M&S, John Lewis, Wagamama etc is slow to impact. Innocent is now added to my list. No Budweiser at Five Guys, though I suspect the alternative comes from the same brewery. A noisy protest to remind businesses that their role is to sell to customers rather than preach to them is fine by me.

[zibzibara]

When I was a kid I remember my mum boycotting South African produce because she didn't want her money to go to a country enforcing apartheid. There was a whole movement encouraging everyone to do this en masse in the hope of impacting the South African export economy.

How silly this whole Target squabble seems in comparison. On one hand you have a company purporting that their sale of branded goods is somehow offering support for a social cause, and on the other, people getting furious about it in way they don't bother more generally about the ills of capitalism and the plight of workers in sweatshops who made those goods.

[lanadelgrey]

Does anyone remember the M&S Pride sandwich - it was early 2010s, I think. At the time it seemed to have been a jump the shark moment, and also tasted pretty yucky - I can’t remember what was in it but a successful combo of six things in bread and that has a long shelf life must be hard to achieve. But rainbow marketing without doing any hard work is always distasteful. It is simply an event on the marketing calendar and neatly fills a blank spot between Easter/summer and then the back to school push

[lechiffre55]

@MerlinsLostMarbles
Asking in good faith. Insert strawman assumption here.

Do you really believe that "companies that sell LGBT products or put up rainbow flags etc?" is what is being boycotted?
If you do then you are wrong in your assement of what is being boycotted and the reasons why, despite all the information explaining why out there. Your poor assement would indicate that its difficult to take you seriously and that it would take considerable effort to explain to you what's going on.
If you don't then your statement about good faith is knowlingly deceptive as you attempt to misrepresent a situation into a different situation because you understand how difficult it is to make a logical argument about the situation. The only way for you to support your ideological position is to misrepresent the situation via a strawman, and so that's what you do.

I doubt this will change anything but : No one gives a fuck about the gay products or flags, it's involving kids in the religion of the extreme gender borg that people object to. Stop trying to indoctrinate kids and leave the kids alone and people will stop boycotting. But we all know how difficult it is for a certain section of society to stop interfering and fiddling with the kids, it's all they want to do after all.

[Needmoresleep]

The focus of the song is rightly on the targeting of kids. This will resonate will most parents, whatever their racial and social background. I assume gender woo is deep within US schools. It is good to see a high profile and catchy pushback. There is about to be a generation of detransitioners. The debate needs to happen, both about the transing of children and the support this receives from the corporate world.

You are right about Chinese factories, but it is whataboutery in that transing of children is happening now in the US including in poorer communities, and also needs to be addressed.

[Ereshkigalangcleg]

Does anyone remember the M&S Pride sandwich - it was early 2010s, I think. At the time it seemed to have been a jump the shark moment, and also tasted pretty yucky - I can’t remember what was in it but a successful combo of six things in bread and that has a long shelf life must be hard to achieve.

There was also one a couple of years ago that was lettuce, guacamole, bacon and tomato I think. Eyes were rolled.

[IWillNoLie]

@MerlinsLostMarbles

Asking in good faith- how do you keep up with all the stores and products you have to boycott? Seriously it's like something new every week. Do you make lists of companies that sell LGBT products or put up rainbow flags etc?

Does it sound too difficult for you? Fortunately we are more than capable of managing a simple task like choosing where to shop. In this case made even easier by the absence of Target from the UK.

[ArabeIIaScott]

It's funny how the mere raising or discussion of a subject can now be taken to imply support of some stance or other, isn't it?

This is a great contributor to a narrowing of discourse, a general chilling effect over discussions of any issues that may be contentious.

[zibzibara]

They're also rapping about God taking revenge and in the video they show only rainbow-coloured products, not the tucking and binding garments. I'm pretty sure the creation of this song was driven by the homophobia that's so common amongst the Americochristian right. Sorry but I don't see these rapture rapsters as allies.

[LizzieSiddal]

Sorry but I don't see these rapture rapsters as allies.

Thats fine, you don’t have to like/agree with everyone!

The thread is just pointing out this song about boycotting Target is No 1 on iTunes.