Boycott Target song now no.1 on iTunes

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No. 1 in US charts.

Nobody ever thought these rappers (or Tucker Carlson, or Kid Rock) were "GC feminists". That makes about as much sense as the charge levelled at Trump that he was a "TERF". The true opponent of trans ideology is reality, which is shared by a great number of people.

What does worry me is that the strides gay people made - with no corporate backing, mind you!! - will be walked back as the TQ has massively overreached. I watched Megyn Kelly for a while as I enjoy her newly peaked fury and her platforming of great women and girls fighting for women's rights (she recently had the terrific Inga Thompson on), but then she'll turn around and talk to some openly homophobic podcaster. The left "shutting down debate" and allowing the right to own the mainstream narrative on this has been a disaster.

https://www.newsweek.com/lego-faces-boycott-calls-over-transgender-building-sets-1803239

And Flora and M&S (after they ended their sponsorship with MN), the NSPCC (tbh not sure how you boycott a child protection org), New Zealand, Bud, Nike and most sports brands, Primark because they permit transpeople to use the changing rooms as is their legal right under the EA, Wagamama(for displaying a flag), Target, and now Lego. And there's probably a bunch of others I missed.

And yes I have seen posts on here where members complain en-mass to shops that have a pride flag in the window. The one with the triangle part; which you may be interested to know also has colours representing people of colour, people affected by AIDs as well as the trans community.

If you boycott ever single place that remotely shows any support for gay+trans people that must make shopping difficult? June is coming up so expect to see a lot more pride flags.

If I ran a business I would keep a pride flag up all year round, if it makes me lose 0.2% of customers who are gender critical I'd be more than happy with that, at least it would help keep my premises a safe space.

I think James and Allie or were great to point out what Christian group do you want in control them all, as Protestants are fractured and they all hate Catholics. Yet we seem to have two groups trying to recreate a Handmaid tale, The Q rainbow men and their surrogacy sub human Martha as public servant/slaves for any man and these very masculine Protestant men with his own woman to himself.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HqsJxiiEa5U&pp=ygUTSmFtZXMgbGluZHNheSBhbGxpZQ%3D%3D

@MerlinsLostMarbles

Now I know you are being desingenuous. You have kept better track of the mumsnet boycotts that I have and yet pretend that they are the result of some kind of homophobia.

That was me! I was very disappointed to find that thread deleted before I had a chance to read the rest of it. And yes, toddler sizes were on the same racks as adult sizes. Some items were not marked as kid sizes but they were clearly kid sized. They must have removed the bathing suits and the binders because there weren't any at all. Some racks were pretty sparse.

Thank you for your time and detective work Murcia! I'm sorry that you didn't get a chance to read the thread before it was zapped.

A parent should be able to say to her child "let's pick you out a new swimming costume" without suddenly being faced with "mummy, daddy, what's tucking?"

For all that the TRA complain that the GC are obsessed with knowing what genitals someone else has, it seems to be the GC who recognise that children should be shielded from details of what adults do with their genitals. This is basic safeguarding.

Good point. "Allies" (see also "I stand with") is commonly used in a notional sense rather than to signify practical cooperation. It can imply the sort of tribal non-thinking that has so many politicians, trade unionists and managers reciting mantras they haven't thought through but took off the team shelf of positions.

If I ran a business I would keep a pride flag up all year round, if it makes me lose 0.2% of customers who are gender critical I'd be more than happy with that

Target’s share price has fallen by around 13% this last couple of weeks which is equivalent to over $9 billion dollars.

Probably half the country, or more, share the GC concern with child transitioning or pushing gender ideology on children.

Bud lights share price fell by over 20%

"Love has no age limit". In an educational pack for schools. Jesus Christ.

We need a new slogan. "Protect LGBT youth: kick paedos out of Pride."

Were the swimmers for children tuck friendly then?

Were they selling binders?

Target state that the tucking swimsuits are adult-sized only. Target still sell TomboyX binders in adult sizes on their website.

Most people don't like these binder/tucking items, they don't like men with a fetish advertising sanitary items to their daughter and they don't like what's being taught in school. It's a push in many countries.

Some don't like the fact that the woke graduates who were taught at university (not talking about Stock types) and are implanting ESG morals. They are in advertising, literature, the media, public relations, crisis management everywhere and doing a bad job compared to those a generation ago. Some say it's because they are edgy, that's their opinion.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12140963/Trans-protester-stormed-Kathleen-Stocks-speech-anti-Republican-called-royals-parasites.html

Thanks. I am checking with Murica as to what they saw.

That target sell binders is very concerning. It normalises a product that causes harm to bodies and I doubt they have massive health warnings all over them. I frankly don’t care that they are only in ‘adult’ sizes. I started wearing ‘adult’ sizes at 12.

https://thepostmillennial.com/target-launches-trans-merch-for-kids-as-well-as-chest-binders-packing-underwear

This is from last year, I think..

I have looked and there are no safety warnings on the binders. Or they are hidden away. On either the target site or the Tomboyx site. This is very harmful indeed.

And yes, adult means little. As a 12 year old, I would have been fitting into this gear. Some girls I know now fitted into ‘adult’ sizes at 10. ‘Adult’ sizing is meaningless in this context. Same for tween aged boys.

I meant to say the two piece bathing suits with the "light binding effect" not stand alone binders. I believe they only sell those online. There were no swimsuits at all so I can't say whether they were kid sized. The tee shirts and other stuff were only marked for toddlers or adults. The extra small for adults was very small. If a person wanted something for an eight year old, they'd have no trouble finding something to fit no matter what the tag says.

I'm not about to discuss the political or religious leanings of an American band of men. However it is an incredibly catchy tune. Even after you've still got it going around in your head.

And boycotting companies works best when you have something catchy.

If you are a certain age you may remember Baby Milk Actions "Nestles kills babies" slogan.

That like this advert made people stop and go "what???" Then you can discuss the situation with someone.

So i may not agree with their thoughts on many things, or even their reasons for doing this, but it will start conversions with people who aren't aware of what's happening. And I can live with that.

Thanks Murica.

So i may not agree with their thoughts on many things, or even their reasons for doing this, but it will start conversions with people who aren't aware of what's happening. And I can live with that.

An interesting and valid point. The more conversations that are had, the better. And in these conversations, any distancing that anyone wants to do from the "don't say gay" teaming is also possible. In fact, it's a good talking point in itself, to completely counter the biased flow of articles from the BBC, Guardian, i and the like.

Glad you realised i meant conversations and not actual conversions. I really should check before posting!

Although those conversations may lead to some conversions of people's stance so even better!

We got in this mess by not talking about things that are uncomfortable. The only way to find some way of everybody being happy is to actually talk about the situation!

Ha ha! Indeed. Good old typos.

We got in this mess by not talking about things that are uncomfortable. The only way to find some way of everybody being happy is to actually talk about the situation!

Totally agree. Although weirdly I'm toggling between this thread and another where talking is being discouraged. Talking to a TW who has a different viewpoint when it comes to women's spaces, that is - instead we should apparently shut her down because she sounds too reasonable and can't be trusted. In the same why as I could hold firm on my views that TW do not belong in women's spaces and services etc (and I would point out that the only solution is third spaces) I am also capable of distancing myself from the message that this band is pushing out. In both cases I can articulate where we have a common view and where we differ. I'm sure most people on this board could. Conversations (and conversions?* 😉😂) can only take place if people talk reasonably to each other about uncomfortable things.

• A universal conversion to third spaces and an acceptance of the reality of biology alongside a gender identity belief is the only viable way forward. Then TW can get on celebrating their trans joy in public, without trampling all over everyone else's boundaries and contributing towards the confusion and sterilisation of adolescents. Any who do have a fetish can keep it where all fetishes belong (in private with consenting adults), the same as any people do who aren't trans.

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