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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Man abducted and sexually assaulted schoolgirl while dressed as woman

73 replies

zibzibara · 18/05/2023 10:29

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65610429

A horrendous crime. I hope the poor girl he victimised is getting all the support she needs.

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zibzibara · 18/05/2023 10:31

Unusual to see the BBC reporting this (mostly) accurately, and not referring to this abhorrent man as a woman or female, even though he's apparently "in the process of transitioning to female". Perhaps a change of policy?

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Diverze · 18/05/2023 10:40

I think he's referred to as Andrew Miller and a man, as that is the name he was tried under.
Who decided he be tried as Miller not Any George is they key - was that his own decision or someone in the legal system?

Diverze · 18/05/2023 10:40

*Amy George, not Any George....

hamstersarse · 18/05/2023 10:42

I would probably support his bits being chopped off in this instance

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 18/05/2023 11:16

was that his own decision or someone in the legal system?

His own, according to the article.

ControversialOpening · 18/05/2023 12:02

That’s a woman you bigot! Acceptance WITHOUT exception, remember?

lets not let the trans ‘community’ get away with disowning this.

CreationNat1on · 18/05/2023 12:06

More scum abusing actual real females, I don't care what this person identifies as, I identify him as an abusive predator.

MoreCheesecakeNow · 18/05/2023 12:07

That poor little girl. I cant help but be curious about why this individual agreed to male pronouns and the use of the male name. Could he be possibly planning a name change once released?

TooOldForThisNonsense · 18/05/2023 12:09

Absolutely and utterly monstrous.

she believed he was a lady and so presumably that’s why she trusted him.

surely GRR must be dead in the water after this. Why on Earth make it easier for these perverts to gain access to vulnerable women and children.

C1N1C · 18/05/2023 12:17

hamstersarse · 18/05/2023 10:42

I would probably support his bits being chopped off in this instance

Can we put this in a raffle? :)

MoreCheesecakeNow · 18/05/2023 12:23

TooOldForThisNonsense · 18/05/2023 12:09

Absolutely and utterly monstrous.

she believed he was a lady and so presumably that’s why she trusted him.

surely GRR must be dead in the water after this. Why on Earth make it easier for these perverts to gain access to vulnerable women and children.

That's really scary. Pretending to be a woman to gain the trust of women and children.
These men have to be stopped. I never hear of female to male trans folk doing things like this.

Toseland · 18/05/2023 12:26

It's so sad that another way of safeguarding children is over. We can no longer say to our children "if you get lost ask a lady for help".
Poor girl, hope she is ok.

GrabbyGabby · 18/05/2023 12:26

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RubyTrees · 18/05/2023 12:28

ControversialOpening · 18/05/2023 12:02

That’s a woman you bigot! Acceptance WITHOUT exception, remember?

lets not let the trans ‘community’ get away with disowning this.

Indeed.

I heard this being reported (accurately) on BBC Radio Sussex - I was pretty shocked given how pro-trans they've been for a long time. Maybe the tide is finally turning for them.

Transparent2 · 18/05/2023 12:33

I dont think this is the good news story you think it is.

You probably didn’t mean it to come across that way, but this is not a good news story at all, and surely to goodness no-one thinks it is?

Tallisker · 18/05/2023 12:34

Grabby** the good news is that the man who abused a child has been taken to court and pleaded guilty to the charges. He is now a convicted sex offender, a fact that will never go away.

There's an abused child at the centre of this, and it's right and proper that she should be supported. And if that is that she isn't made to lie about pronouns, that is good.

GrabbyGabby · 18/05/2023 12:35

Transparent2 · 18/05/2023 12:33

I dont think this is the good news story you think it is.

You probably didn’t mean it to come across that way, but this is not a good news story at all, and surely to goodness no-one thinks it is?

Oh fuck yes. That is horrifically put. Will ask for it to be removed

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/05/2023 12:35

TooOldForThisNonsense · 18/05/2023 12:09

Absolutely and utterly monstrous.

she believed he was a lady and so presumably that’s why she trusted him.

surely GRR must be dead in the water after this. Why on Earth make it easier for these perverts to gain access to vulnerable women and children.

Did she? Or was she able to recognise him as male but trans, so felt she had to be polite? He appears to have been openly cross-dressing around the area and to have been using a different name, Amy George, in some contexts. #bekind, after all, #acceptancewithout exception, etc etc, and this is where it can lead. Poor kid. I hope she and her family are getting good support.

RubyTrees · 18/05/2023 12:35

It does leave the question of what is the difference between a man dressed as a woman and a transwoman hanging in the air.

Yep, a bit like Nicola Sturgeon's rapist gender.

OldCrone · 18/05/2023 12:40

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/05/2023 12:35

Did she? Or was she able to recognise him as male but trans, so felt she had to be polite? He appears to have been openly cross-dressing around the area and to have been using a different name, Amy George, in some contexts. #bekind, after all, #acceptancewithout exception, etc etc, and this is where it can lead. Poor kid. I hope she and her family are getting good support.

She may have been taught (possibly in school) that people can change sex and that a man who says he is transitioning to be a transwoman is actually in the process of changing sex. She may also have been taught that men who say they are women are women (TWAW) and therefore such a man is as safe to be with as an actual woman.

This shows the danger of teaching children that people are who they say they are and TWAW.

TooOldForThisNonsense · 18/05/2023 12:41

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/05/2023 12:35

Did she? Or was she able to recognise him as male but trans, so felt she had to be polite? He appears to have been openly cross-dressing around the area and to have been using a different name, Amy George, in some contexts. #bekind, after all, #acceptancewithout exception, etc etc, and this is where it can lead. Poor kid. I hope she and her family are getting good support.

All I know is what it says in the article - she said she was approached by a “lady in a car” and went with “her” because she believed the “lady” to be non threatening.

poor, poor girl

TooOldForThisNonsense · 18/05/2023 12:42

OldCrone · 18/05/2023 12:40

She may have been taught (possibly in school) that people can change sex and that a man who says he is transitioning to be a transwoman is actually in the process of changing sex. She may also have been taught that men who say they are women are women (TWAW) and therefore such a man is as safe to be with as an actual woman.

This shows the danger of teaching children that people are who they say they are and TWAW.

Excellent points.

SquirrelSoShiny · 18/05/2023 12:45

This story tells us everything we need to know about why self-id is so dangerous and why teaching children this nonsense is also so dangerous.

Musomama1 · 18/05/2023 12:51

So Keir Starmer, some women have penises right? So that means that now some women abduct and sexually assault minors?

So glad of the accurate reporting here.

Mamiamamia · 18/05/2023 12:52

Interesting that the article is tilted’a man dressed as a woman’ rather than ‘a trans woman’ - it seems like a loophole for the trans activists to say ‘but he is not one of us’

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