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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Leader of Plaid Cymru Adam Price resigns after a report found misogyny, harassment and bullying in the party

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miri1985 · 11/05/2023 04:10

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-65553413

Adam Price

Plaid Cymru leader Adam Price quits after damning report

Adam Price quits after review found misogyny, harassment and bullying in his party.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-65553413

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Hecate01 · 11/05/2023 06:24

Between Plaid and Labour we are doomed in Wales.

teawamutu · 11/05/2023 07:36

Any way a similar review could be carried out for (all three branches of) Labour?

fromorbit · 11/05/2023 08:20

Any possibility that the next leader is better? There were some gender crits in Plaid but there seems to be nothing organized. Rhun ap Iorwerth is the currently deputy leader and ran for leader in 2018. I imagine he is front runner if he stands. I suspect he would not change Plaid's position on gender issues, but from a quick google he is not that interested in the topic so it may take more of a backseat.

Leanne Wood can't stand as she lost her Senedd seat. Both Price and Wood are very committed to genderism. So any change might help.

Rhun ap Iorwerth to stand as MP for Ynys Môn at next General Election

Member of the Senedd for Ynys Môn, Rhun ap Iorwerth, will stand as an MP for Plaid Cymru in the next general election.

https://www.thebangoraye.com/rhun-ap-iorwerth-to-stand-as-mp-for-ynys-mon-at-next-general-election/

OldCrone · 11/05/2023 09:07

Glad to see him go. He was leader when Helen Mary Jones was bullied into apologising for alleged 'transphobia'.

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2021-03-10/plaid-cymrus-helen-mary-jones-vows-to-attend-training-after-alleged-transphobia

SunnyEgg · 11/05/2023 09:10

Hecate01 · 11/05/2023 06:24

Between Plaid and Labour we are doomed in Wales.

So bad

Drakeford is similar with misogyny

RoyalCorgi · 11/05/2023 10:45

OldCrone · 11/05/2023 09:07

Glad to see him go. He was leader when Helen Mary Jones was bullied into apologising for alleged 'transphobia'.

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2021-03-10/plaid-cymrus-helen-mary-jones-vows-to-attend-training-after-alleged-transphobia

But look at the crime she committed!

"In December, Ms Jones apologised after sharing a tweet that criticised people who equated trans discrimination with the Holocaust."

It just goes to show how insane and yet influential this ideology is. Comparing trans discrimination - or indeed any kind of discrimination - with the genocide of six million people is about as offensive as it gets in my book. Yet these people managed to force Jones to apologise for pointing it out. I wonder what they did to her, and why she didn't stand her ground.

OldCrone · 11/05/2023 11:14

RoyalCorgi · 11/05/2023 10:45

But look at the crime she committed!

"In December, Ms Jones apologised after sharing a tweet that criticised people who equated trans discrimination with the Holocaust."

It just goes to show how insane and yet influential this ideology is. Comparing trans discrimination - or indeed any kind of discrimination - with the genocide of six million people is about as offensive as it gets in my book. Yet these people managed to force Jones to apologise for pointing it out. I wonder what they did to her, and why she didn't stand her ground.

She shared Rosa Freedman's tweet which said: ‘Whatever your position on sex and gender identity please stop equating this with the Holocaust. I and very many others would stand in front or in the place of those being put onto trains leading to the death camps. Stop co-opting our trauma’.

Both women were accused of holocaust denial as well as transphobia (by people who didn't seem to understand the tweet).

This was Adam Price's response:

I wish to reaffirm Plaid Cymru’s absolute commitment to the rights of trans people. Trans men are men and trans women are women. I welcome the apology from a member of my shadow cabinet following a now deleted retweeted message which caused pain and hurt to many.

The@Plaid_Cymru Government I hope to lead after May’s Senedd election will seek the power from Westminster to reform the GRA and improve the lives of trans people. I also reiterate my absolute commitment to creating a fully inclusive independent Wales.
https://twitter.com/Adamprice/status/1336718715497410562

Helen Mary Jones's apology had the air of one made with a gun to her head. It was just before an election and she may have felt she had to comply (unfortunately she lost her seat).

https://twitter.com/MForstater/status/1369713100321157120

These are some of the threads about this:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4103049-Support-Plaid-Cymru-MP-Helen-Mary-Jones

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4188459-Helen-Mary-Jones-statement-Plaid-cymru-politician-apologises-for-transphobia-and-will-seek-re-education

https://twitter.com/Adamprice/status/1336718715497410562

CompleteGinasaur · 11/05/2023 11:18

"Land of my Fathers - my fathers can keep it..." (Dylan Thomas).

RoyalCorgi · 11/05/2023 11:34

Helen Mary Jones's apology had the air of one made with a gun to her head. It was just before an election and she may have felt she had to comply (unfortunately she lost her seat).

It was a ridiculous, grovelling apology. God knows what they said to her to force her to come out with that shit. I hate to say it, but I think less well of her for having agreed to apologise like that.

SirVixofVixHall · 11/05/2023 11:59

What has happened to her since ? I also wondered what was done to force that apology. It was shocking that she said it.
Re Adam Price, are his children by a surrogate, or adopted ?

OldCrone · 11/05/2023 12:28

Re Adam Price, are his children by a surrogate, or adopted ?

Surrogate.

nothingcomestonothing · 11/05/2023 12:40

OldCrone · 11/05/2023 12:28

Re Adam Price, are his children by a surrogate, or adopted ?

Surrogate.

Since he believes TWAW, presumably a TW was the surrogate?

fromorbit · 12/05/2023 06:45

SirVixofVixHall · 11/05/2023 11:59

What has happened to her since ? I also wondered what was done to force that apology. It was shocking that she said it.
Re Adam Price, are his children by a surrogate, or adopted ?

They forced her to attend "training" i.e re-education/confession etc before she could shed her witch status.

She is now on the board of Social Care Wales since losing her seat. Good to have some one like that overseeing social care.

https://www.gov.wales/helen-mary-jones-appointed-social-care-wales-board

I like to think that she also runs one of the more hardcore anon Welsh GC twitter accounts in secret.

It is interesting that Plaid, unlike any other major party has no open Women's Rebellion group that could rally round her. Welsh Labour has a decent one.

Helen Mary Jones appointed to Social Care Wales Board | GOV.WALES

Deputy Minister for Social Services, Julie Morgan has today (Tuesday 31 May) announced the appointment of Helen Mary Jones to the Social Care Wales Board.

https://www.gov.wales/helen-mary-jones-appointed-social-care-wales-board

Mrsorganmorgan · 12/05/2023 12:11

I agree totally Hecate01

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