Germany proposes rules to ease legal changes of gender - from 14 years old

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The law would end decades-old rules which require expert assessments and a court’s authorisation.

Under the planned “self-determination law”, adults would be able to change their first name and legal gender at register offices without further formalities.

“We have taken another big step forward with the self-determination act and with it also in the protection against discrimination and the rights of transgender, intersex and non-binary people,” said Germany’s minister for families Lisa Paus.

The new government proposal declares that for children under the age of 14, legal guardians have to submit the declaration of change, while teenagers aged 14 and older should be able to submit the declaration of change themselves — but it should include the support of their guardians.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/national/23511368.germany-proposes-rules-ease-legal-changes-gender

Minister for Families !

What a fucking joke. World's gone mad.

Maybe someone can self determine to not pay taxes.

It's a giant shit show. Hilariously the new law won't apply for purposes of wartime conscription.

Can't see any issue with teenage boys being able to self identify into girls' spaces at all.

Oh wait

“We have taken another big step forward with the self-determination act and with it also in the protection against discrimination and the rights of transgender, intersex and non-binary people,” said Germany’s minister for families Lisa Paus.

I do wonder when people make comments like this if they think that being transgender or 'non-binary' is somehow the same as intersex. Why are people with a medical condition, which in many cases must be quite difficult to live with, sandwiched there between people who think they're the opposite sex and people who think they don't have a sex? What does she think they have in common?

Has this 'minister for families' thought to talk to some people with DSDs and asked them if they want to be grouped together with people who want to deny the reality of their sex?

Germany isn't reading the room well at all.

Sadly they are doing this against the populace. For years there is also the debate about gender neutral language, and despite most people not wanting it, it is a done deal now, they pushed it through. Media outlets, schools, universities, you get downgraded if you do not use gender neutral language.

Lisa Paus is a member of the German Greens, who also have Tessa Ganserer as a member of parliament. I'd advise caution when googling.

This paragraph is quite important:

"The new government proposal declares that for children under the age of 14, legal guardians have to submit the declaration of change, while teenagers aged 14 and older should be able to submit the declaration of change themselves — but it should include the support of their guardians."

Anything from the "while teenagers aged 14..." is, imho, not translated quite correctly.
For 14 and over they can submit the declaration a legal guardian must consent. If the child's well being might be in jeopardy a family court can give consent instead of the legal guardians.

It is reassuring that parents will have to consent, but, and it's a big one, what if the parents are actually pushing the ideology onto the children? In that case the "consent" might just as well be an order.

Not happy about the new "Selbstbestimmungsgesetz", at all.