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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Scientific American on puberty blockers.

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ArabeIIaScott · 04/05/2023 21:36

Garbled propaganda piece presents blockers as a way to avoid suicide, via thinly veiled ominous threat.

'...patients and their families have to weigh the risk of having lower bone density versus a gender issue that’s not properly treated'

Actually, it's not even veiled.

'Caregivers must weigh any concerns against the lifelong risks of not receiving the care, such as depression and suicidality, and the need for future surgeries, she says.'

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-are-puberty-blockers-and-how-do-they-work/

This sentence below, in particular, doesn't cite any references or evidence to support the assertion. Does anyone know what they mean? :

'Teens who had access to puberty blockers and hormone therapy require fewer gender-affirming surgeries as adults'

Finally, it's not going down well on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/sciam/status/1653775493550813184?cxt=HHwWgMC99ZODsvMtAAAA

https://twitter.com/sciam/status/1653775493550813184?cxt=HHwWgMC99ZODsvMtAAAA

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Slothtoes · 09/05/2023 10:52

The Twitter comments are heartening.
The editorial board of the journal is completely responsible for the quality of what they publish, not the author.
Any quality publications have expert editors and peer reviewers to filter out dross from authors.
Sadly as captured institutions will realise it’s their own good reputation, staff and sponsors that they will lose.

If the author is on staff in some way then there is a severe management issue to be dealt with if the same rigour has not been applied to all authors. If the issue is that the bar is simply set extremely low for all authors, then that’s the end of confidence in that journal.

Slothtoes · 09/05/2023 10:55

https://askforevidence.org/articles/ask-for-evidence-animations There are various useful social media short videos about how to ask for evidence when claims are made…

zibzibara · 09/05/2023 14:44

DemiColon · 09/05/2023 10:31

Slightly an aside, maybe, but I think that the fact that magazines like SA, National Geographic, and Psychology Today, have spouted this stuff is a huge reason so many regular people have bought into trans ideology.

These people see these magazines as being good, solid, popular science magazines that can be trusted. And if they are saying this stuff is scientifically sound, people believe it.

They don't have to buy into all the weird ideology, they think that "gender incongruence" is a result of some kind of intersex brain condition. TWAW, because science shows it to be true.

It's very difficult to convince people who have bought into this view from that pseudo-scientific standpoint otherwise, because they truly are convinced they are "following the science."

This was my experience too. I'd read that people diagnosed with gender dysphoria had what was essentially a 'brain sex' that was the opposite to the rest of their body, and that there was a body of neuroimaging research that backed this up. And that once diagnosed they'd go through the process of hormones and surgery to change appearance until they resembled the opposite sex and could feel comfortable in their bodies.

However, my surprise when someone kindly informed me that actually, this was about simply identifying as the opposite sex and gender dysphoria is not a requisite, jolted me into actually looking at this critically - and finding that the whole 'trans' belief system doesn't stand up to scrutiny, and that the scientific research doesn't conclude what adherents to this ideology claim it does.

So in that sense it was quite helpful that they'd built their arguments upon some dubious claims about the how 'the science' supports all this.

ArabeIIaScott · 19/05/2023 11:42

https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2023/05/18/once-again-ideology-distorts-science-the-editor-in-chief-of-scientific-american-flubs-big-time-wrongly-asserting-that-sparrows-have-four-sexes/

'Helmuth is tweeting wrong things about biology in the service of her ideology, an ideology that she doesn’t just embrace, but has infused into the magazine she runs. Perhaps Scientific American wants to become Ideological American, but I’m hoping things will turn around. They would if Helmuth could simply adopt the idea that she shouldn’t use the magazine as a mouthpiece for her politics, but she won’t do that. Also, she refuses to engage with scientific criticism, not a good look for an editor.'

Once again, ideology distorts science: the editor-in-chief of Scientific American flubs big time, wrongly asserting that sparrows have four sexes.

This is a sad story: sad for biology, sad for science communication, and perhaps saddest for Laura Helmuth, editor-in-chief of Scientific American. Over the past few years, Helmuth has injected a h…

https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2023/05/18/once-again-ideology-distorts-science-the-editor-in-chief-of-scientific-american-flubs-big-time-wrongly-asserting-that-sparrows-have-four-sexes

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Kucinghitam · 19/05/2023 15:16

ArabeIIaScott · 19/05/2023 11:42

https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2023/05/18/once-again-ideology-distorts-science-the-editor-in-chief-of-scientific-american-flubs-big-time-wrongly-asserting-that-sparrows-have-four-sexes/

'Helmuth is tweeting wrong things about biology in the service of her ideology, an ideology that she doesn’t just embrace, but has infused into the magazine she runs. Perhaps Scientific American wants to become Ideological American, but I’m hoping things will turn around. They would if Helmuth could simply adopt the idea that she shouldn’t use the magazine as a mouthpiece for her politics, but she won’t do that. Also, she refuses to engage with scientific criticism, not a good look for an editor.'

Haha, excellent article!

It's a popular sciencificatory complicmacatedly nuancified wibbly wobbly trope amongst The Right Side of History - as soon as I see the phrase "chromosomal sex" in somebody's writing, I know they're full of righteous shit Grin

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