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Irish Eurovision band sack team member for saying a male rapist is not a woman

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Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 26/04/2023 06:08

Ian Banham - the creative director for the Irish Eurovision Song has been sacked by the other band members because he wrote a tweet calling out the press for referring to a male rapist as a ‘she’.

The band have issued this statement:

Wild Youth is a band that stands for unity and kindness. Our song represents our beliefs as a band. We have cut all ties with lan Banham and will not have him on or near our team or Eurovison journey. We are so sorry for anyone offended by his comments.

They are in effect sacking their band mate and they defending a rapist’s right to be called she’ and they say they stand for ‘kindness’.
There is a backlash, I wonder how much support they will get for this.

https://twitter.com/bandwildyouth/status/1650833255266934784?s=46&t=KoykWa-IFitZMrteWP2pKA

Irish Eurovision band sack team member for saying a male rapist is not a woman
Irish Eurovision band sack team member for saying a male rapist is not a woman
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ArcaneWireless · 29/04/2023 22:50

They don’t seem to be answering many questions there Beetle. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Even though some tweeting people have tried to make it easy by using pictures….

Boiledbeetle · 29/04/2023 22:53

ArcaneWireless · 29/04/2023 22:50

They don’t seem to be answering many questions there Beetle. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Even though some tweeting people have tried to make it easy by using pictures….

Hadn't got around to clicking on the actual link!

Having now looked:

That is so going to disappear in a puff over night!

Boiledbeetle · 29/04/2023 22:57

There's about a handful of actual questions and the rest are all questions they aren't going to want to answer.

Imagine spending the days leading up to the biggest night ever that will be remembered for years they hope and instead of the usual ditzy bland questions they are having to deal with this shit show.

Tough!

ArcaneWireless · 29/04/2023 23:03

Quite like this one

Irish Eurovision band sack team member for saying a male rapist is not a woman
Sparagmos · 29/04/2023 23:08

It is utterly extraordinary! What is the need here to defend the indefensible?

Boiledbeetle · 29/04/2023 23:18

I wonder who made the actual decision because the guys in the band seem quite clueless as to what the fuck they actually did to make this all go wrong in their week of fame and fortune!

ReadersD1gest · 29/04/2023 23:20

Boiledbeetle · 29/04/2023 23:18

I wonder who made the actual decision because the guys in the band seem quite clueless as to what the fuck they actually did to make this all go wrong in their week of fame and fortune!

Shower of simpletons 🙄

ArcaneWireless · 29/04/2023 23:23

Arse meet plate. Via hand.

FrancescaContini · 30/04/2023 04:11

It’s not “kind” to refuse to call a rapist “she”? And to be sacked for refusing to do this?? What extraordinary times we’re living in.

Motorcyclemptiness · 30/04/2023 07:09

"Kindness" 🙄

whereaw · 30/04/2023 07:29

I cannot get over the way the BBC have reported this.....

DialSquare · 30/04/2023 07:59

Just watched the video. Should have known where their loyalties lie by the gold Lamé bags on their heads! And the song is shit.

BettyFilous · 30/04/2023 08:03

Villagetoraiseachild · 26/04/2023 11:19

Lordy, the Croatia song is like a bad migraine.
So if Ian removes his creative direction, does that leave the Wild Youths having to sing in rocking chairs Val Doonican styley?

Thinking about Ian’s creative input, perhaps the “nowhere near us” remark means he’s still on the books because they need his choreography but they’re hoping they’ve achieved sufficient distance for the wokies by denouncing him.

ApocalipstickNow · 30/04/2023 08:56

Boiled come on, was it you who rang Going Live when Five Star were taking questions? Hmmm?

ArcaneWireless · 30/04/2023 11:00

I remember that Apocalipstick! 😁

ArcaneWireless · 30/04/2023 11:07

whereaw · 30/04/2023 07:29

I cannot get over the way the BBC have reported this.....

It is incredibly mealie-mouthed. And that is shameful.

No mention of stabbing thieving rapists at all.

Boiledbeetle · 30/04/2023 11:16

ApocalipstickNow · 30/04/2023 08:56

Boiled come on, was it you who rang Going Live when Five Star were taking questions? Hmmm?

Noooo. But I do remember being sat there watching when that call came in.

ArcaneWireless · 30/04/2023 12:48

A good point. I’m guessing no and no…

Irish Eurovision band sack team member for saying a male rapist is not a woman
ArcaneWireless · 30/04/2023 12:50

Tap.

Irish Eurovision band sack team member for saying a male rapist is not a woman
ArcaneWireless · 30/04/2023 12:54

The Twitter Q&A has more questions than answers.

Funny that.

It is pretty much the same question over and over and over though so I’m sure an answer will be forthcoming soon.

(Thanks to those who left these wee gems on Twitter)

Irish Eurovision band sack team member for saying a male rapist is not a woman
Chersfrozenface · 04/05/2023 11:30

I complained to the BBC about its story on this, saying that it should have made clear the crimes of the person called a man in the tweet, who is currently in a male prison.

I've had a reply today apologising for not responding sooner and adding "..although we normally aim to reply to most complaints within 2 weeks, we are currently dealing with a higher than normal volume of cases. This means it will take a little longer to reply to you at present. We hope you understand that this is why we are unable to respond within our normal service times.

"We will of course respond as soon as we can, but in the meantime ask you not to contact us further and apologise if you do experience further delay."

I'm hoping this is because a) they got lots of complaints and b) they don't know what to say. I mean, how could they defend their biased story?

I'll wait. Though after a month or so I will contact them again, despite their pleas, to let them know I won't just forget about it.

RedToothBrush · 04/05/2023 11:37

In a surprise to absolutely no one, the betting odds for Wild Youth put them close to the bottom of expectations for Semi 1 and thus likely to be eliminated before the Final.

Shame that.

Chersfrozenface · 04/05/2023 11:44

Oh dear what a shame never mind.

WarningToTheCurious · 04/05/2023 11:54

@Chersfrozenface I got the same BBC response today too. Hopefully the BBC were deluged with complaints.

Chersfrozenface · 04/05/2023 13:09

I've now had a mealy-mouthed reply from the BBC.

TL:DR He "misgendered" more than one person and we didn't pick out any one tweet or individual so we didn't need to point out Zara Jade's crimes.

Slimy gits.