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YetAnotherSpartacus · 29/05/2023 13:00

I love the bit about the Israel/Palestine conflict :)

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 29/05/2023 14:22

I think the TL;DR reading is "all those silly gender-critical feminists have poked the conservative right and now women's rights are suffering - really, don't they understand that trans/women are on the same side?"

Some interesting hypotheses (I'd like to hear more about how US conservative orgs are harnessing "anti-trans" donations to stop abortion rights because this is perfectly plausible and something I have been concerned about) but the piece is all assertation and conjecture with no evidence.

maltravers · 29/05/2023 14:28

Rejoice ladies! A man has arrived on the above news link to explain to us that women’s concern about losing their rights is now old hat and 5 years out of fashion. I’m sure this will be a relief to us all - back to the kitchen! The real story is only about the right wing cashing in on gender wars apparently (clue : don’t give them an open goal then).

PorcelinaV · 29/05/2023 14:41

"In Melbourne this March, an anti-trans rally organised by British “gender critical” campaigner Kellie Jay-Keen staged a mass Nazi salute."

That's so dishonest. It implies something officially organised.

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SinnerBoy · 29/05/2023 15:54

And the Nazis were nothing to with KJK, she told them that they weren't welcome.

You might claim that the Trans Extremist side had the Nazis along for them.

MargotBamborough · 29/05/2023 15:57

I think the most pertinent point is that the Nazis, whether or not they actually had anything to do with Kellie-Jay Keen, were not the worst behaved people there.

The trans activists were.

SinnerBoy · 29/05/2023 15:59

Well, quite. And as the TEZs didn't tell the Nazis officially not to go, they as good as invited them.

I mean, sauce for the goose, right?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/05/2023 16:01

That's so dishonest. It implies something officially organised.

Incredibly dishonest. A hallmark of this movement, as we all know.

BettyFilous · 29/05/2023 19:25

What time is this due to air?

ArabeIIaScott · 29/05/2023 19:46

PorcelinaV · 29/05/2023 14:41

"In Melbourne this March, an anti-trans rally organised by British “gender critical” campaigner Kellie Jay-Keen staged a mass Nazi salute."

That's so dishonest. It implies something officially organised.

That is straight-out libel. I hope KJK sues.

ArabeIIaScott · 29/05/2023 19:52

Tue 30 May, 10pm

IwantToRetire · 29/05/2023 19:52

IwantToRetire · 27/05/2023 23:36

Its on C4 at 10pm this coming Tuesday 30th May.

I'd forgotten the earlier programme but this is obviously being marketed by C4 as shock jock tv - along with Depp vs Heard. https://www.channel4.com/press/news/channel-4-announces-trailblazing-slate-provocative-new-shows-its-2023-content-showcase

Interestingly it looks like some trans advocates who took part thought they had been duped - https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/13tj30i/channel_4_deceives_trans_and_nonbinary/

Just realised isn't tuesday the day KS is meant to be giving a speach in Oxford? Spooky conincident or C4 going all out to attract attention.

This was posted earlier.

TheBiologyStupid · 29/05/2023 19:55

SinnerBoy · 29/05/2023 15:59

Well, quite. And as the TEZs didn't tell the Nazis officially not to go, they as good as invited them.

I mean, sauce for the goose, right?

This!

PurpleBugz · 29/05/2023 20:00

SinnerBoy · 29/05/2023 15:59

Well, quite. And as the TEZs didn't tell the Nazis officially not to go, they as good as invited them.

I mean, sauce for the goose, right?

I do t understand what you are saying here sorry?

Are you saying trans rights activists welcomed the nazi salute to make KJK look bad?

Helleofabore · 29/05/2023 20:27

PurpleBugz · 29/05/2023 20:00

I do t understand what you are saying here sorry?

Are you saying trans rights activists welcomed the nazi salute to make KJK look bad?

sinner is pointing out the ridiculous notion that has been used to harm feminists, particularly Kellie Jay and Moira Deeming. And pointing out that this is relevant for this person being within the TRA group. That TRAs who have used the ridiculous lie, are having it reflected back at them.

PurpleBugz · 29/05/2023 22:16

@Helleofabore

Ok thanks.

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