Judgement in Mermaids v Charity Commission tribunal expected in days

[RoyalCorgi]

This is the case where Mermaids challenged the Charity Commission's decision to give charitable status to the LGBA.

Don't have any more detail at the moment, but thought you'd all be interested. It's been a four month wait already.

I wonder whether courts / judges etc struggle internally with this and have people refusing to type up judgements etc a la the younger people in publishing refusing to publish books that hurt their feelings.

Yes I was wondering how it was relevant. If the decision is in favour of Mermaids how would that change anything in this case? DF would still be protected from discrimination on the basis of belief wouldn't she?

Different protected characteristic have to be balanced against each other, and a wide range of circumstances can be relevant to that balancing process.

Sorry I articulated that poorly. I meant the protection afforded on the basis of a person’s protected characteristics often has to be balanced against the need to protect those with other protected characteristics - including conflicting beliefs.

Can you give an example of how whether LGBA was later stripped of its charity status or not (not done at the time of the incident) would be relevant to the ackknowledged poor behaviour towards Denise Fahmy in her workplace?

Of how it could be relevant, I mean?

Haha. Yup you got me 😂

I’m not familiar with the details of either case, but if LGBA’s charitable status was removed on the basis that its primary purpose is campaigning against the interests of trans people and not pursuing genuinely charitable aims, couldnt that affect the court’s view in the ACE case of the reasonableness or otherwise at the criticisms by ACE employees of LGBA, and of the complainant’s support of them?

I understand that rights need to be balanced but I’m not sure that putting and leaving up a petition with nasty and discriminating remarks attacking a person on the basis of their PC would ever be something that was considered to be part of the balancing process. I just can’t imagine how LGBAs charity status would be relevant in these particular circumstances.

That is a very big ‘if’. But if mermaids win it would mean careful consideration by the Charity Commission, with expert input from Lawyers, had got it wrong. Given DF is not a judge in that case, it is perfectly reasonably of her to be expected to be able to rely on the Charity Commission’s decision. And it is very much discrimination to harass her for doing so as a manifesting her GC beliefs. Until the judgement in that case, the current situation is LBGA is a responsible charity complying with charitable law and following the Equality Act.

Does that mean we should all regard Mermaids as a responsible charity complying with charity law and following the Equality Act?

Not responsible since the ICO found them guilty of putting very sensitive patient data on a public website.
Not responsible when they had a trustee supporting paedophilia
Not responsible when they referred children to a GP who was struck of and another with a criminal conviction for running a dodgy clinic, to obtain prescriptions from overseas prescribers.
Not responsible when their CEO took her child overseas to get round medical restrictions in the UK
No responsible when they provided chest binding devices (which have a 97% adverse event rate) to children behind their parents back
No responsible when they make medical claims despite admitting in court that they are not medical experts
No responsible when they have been found to be pressurising clinicians at Tavistock
Not responsible when they lie about suicide rates
I could continue.

We don’t need to wait on the outcome of the investigation by the Charity commission to know what has already been dealt with by regulatory authorities, what has been said by them in other court cases, what they have placed on the web, when it is known why a trustee stepped down.

Should be any day now.

I'm posting this in the middle of the night. 🤞 no-one will think it's a useful update. Apologies if otherwise.

All of this.

Finally…

Eeek!

Can’t believe it’s over 2 months since this thread went up! I can’t even remember when the case ended. Was it in February?

Wow. Fingers firmly crossed!

OMG! Thought it might be another false alarm!

November.

Exciting news. Fingers crossed!

7 months! Bloody hell that’s pushing it isn’t it?

Wow - this is a very big week

And I wonder when this will be reporting?

Oops, I mean, this: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/regulator-announces-statutory-inquiry-into-mermaids