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Not so much "Just Do It"...

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dunBle · 06/04/2023 08:48

as "Oh just fuck OFF": https://twitter.com/saralikeclara/status/1643861659797053441
Not sure it's great PR to make your target market feel like you're taking the piss out of them.

https://twitter.com/saralikeclara/status/1643861659797053441

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JamSandle · 06/04/2023 23:20

PopGoesTheProsecco · 06/04/2023 21:14

Am so fed up with woman face. In a day and age that we call out cultural appropriation a man parodying a woman is somehow ‘stunning and brave’. If we put on blackface we’d rightly be called out on it.

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Babdoc · 06/04/2023 23:40

DD has a long running spoof of Mulvaney running on Youtube, called Days of Boyhood. She parodies his “Days of Girlhood” by pretending to be a transman, and has got his creepy smile off to a t.
I’m sure she will do a future episode on his Nike deal.
She’s currently writing the songs for a spoof musical to rival his.
If any of you want to watch her on Youtube, turn on the subtitles - she has a lot of extra jokes in them. She’s on about Day 68 of being a boy now.

OneMorePlant · 07/04/2023 00:02

I've seen people say they will boycott Nike and get Adidas instead but I just want to remind you all that a year ago Adidas made commercials supporting men in women's sports.

Als Jack Daniels Canada insta have lost their minds:

Needmoresleep · 07/04/2023 00:07

England match report is now up. Why pay Dylan when you could pay a genuinely sporty woman from England’s most successful football team.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 07/04/2023 01:03

There’s an article in the Telegraph about this today:
Judith Wood’s Telegraph article

Needless to say, Nike is on my boycott list now. But the marketing departments of the these companies must have a very short memory (the staff probably have a short lifespan) as it was not that many years ago that there was a push for ‘real people’ and ‘real bodies’ in marketing.That essentially meant a firm targeting middle aged women with disposable income wouldn’t use an anorexic teenager to advertise their products.

I was happy to see people that looked like me (older and bigger than the average model) advertising things I was interested in. It was good to see whether the sleeve of the dress could cover bingo wings, for example.

Here is a tip for Nike (and anyone else marketing to women aged 40+) - if you want me to buy your bras or whatever else, you are going to need to model them on women, ideally women who don’t have an eating disorder.

Transwomen modelling clothes tells me that the clothes won’t fit my hips and breasts because I don’t have the body of a man (or an anorexic teenager for that matter, bring back normal sized models).

I don’t understand why Nike chose a trans influencer to advertise a sports bra

Let us hope this is commercial suicide that will release the pendulum to swing back and whack the wokerati right in their pronouns

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/04/06/nike-dylan-mulvaney-instagram-model-clothes/

OhcantthInkofaname · 07/04/2023 01:10

First of all somebody needs to give that person a sandwich.
I would say that that is an impression by somebody who thinks that's the way women exercise.

MoltenLasagne · 07/04/2023 02:19

Nike have obviously decided its better to boost brand awareness via hate clicks than giving a fuck about their brand messaging to women.

Datun · 07/04/2023 07:40

GrinitchSpinach · 06/04/2023 18:08

I am beyond tired of seeing Dylan's manic, offensive parody of "girlhood" shoved in my face everywhere. I don't drink Budweiser so can't reduce my spending with them, but I would normally buy several Hershey's products (not Hershey's itself but they own Reese's and York Peppermint Patties and Twizzlers) for Easter. Not this year.

For actual women in the market for a sports bra, I just tried the Panache 7341 for the first time and its is GREAT. Pricey, but great. One of the few brands I've tried that has straps I can shorten enough to fit my female shoulders and ribcage, which by the looks of it are shaped quite differently from Dylan's.

Thanks for the tip @GrinitchSpinach that bra looks v good.

GilbertNo4 · 07/04/2023 07:50

Tampax? Where the fuck is he putting those? Otoh, don't answer that!

yetanotherusernameAgain · 07/04/2023 08:11

jeffgoldblum · 06/04/2023 18:39

Wasn't it Nike that did that ridiculous and out of touch advertisement with women running at night?

No, that was Samsung, trying to sell tech products.

Mammillaria · 07/04/2023 08:28

I don't understand it. Dylan was/is a successful broadway performer. Dylan knows how to do a proper cardio workout. Why ham it up if not to parody?

MrsMurphyIWish · 07/04/2023 08:39

I find this so offensive. I’m a runner. An advert that would represent me would be a middle aged, sweaty woman avoiding dogs and dog crap, cars and flicking the bird to random men who feel the need to “encourage” me.

FannyCann · 07/04/2023 09:17

New York Times are reporting that the Biden administration want to prevent schools having an across the board block on trans pupils competing in the class that matches their gender identity. This just means endless court cases and disagreements for schools, and what is the point? If one school keeps their team female only but the next doesn't, then young women will still have to compete against young men when they compete against other school teams. 🙄

"The Biden administration proposed a rule change on Thursday that would allow schools to block some transgender athletes from competing on sports teams that match their gender identities. But the proposal would also prevent schools from enacting across-the-board bans."

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/06/us/transgender-athletes-title-ix-biden-adminstration.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
Biden Plan Allows Limits on Trans Athletes’ Participation in School Sports

Anyway one mother said this of her son:

"Her mother, Melissa McLaren, added, “It’s so exasperating that we have lawmakers trying to legislate her, when all she really wants to do is sing ‘Pitch Perfect’ on the bus to out-of-town games and throw up after she does too many burpees.”

FFS. Angry

FannyCann · 07/04/2023 09:18

Meant to add screenshot to save reading the article.

Not so much "Just Do It"...
Sorryyoufeelthatway · 07/04/2023 09:19

Beyond parody

nilsmousehammer · 07/04/2023 10:49

DifficultBloodyWoman · 07/04/2023 01:03

There’s an article in the Telegraph about this today:
Judith Wood’s Telegraph article

Needless to say, Nike is on my boycott list now. But the marketing departments of the these companies must have a very short memory (the staff probably have a short lifespan) as it was not that many years ago that there was a push for ‘real people’ and ‘real bodies’ in marketing.That essentially meant a firm targeting middle aged women with disposable income wouldn’t use an anorexic teenager to advertise their products.

I was happy to see people that looked like me (older and bigger than the average model) advertising things I was interested in. It was good to see whether the sleeve of the dress could cover bingo wings, for example.

Here is a tip for Nike (and anyone else marketing to women aged 40+) - if you want me to buy your bras or whatever else, you are going to need to model them on women, ideally women who don’t have an eating disorder.

Transwomen modelling clothes tells me that the clothes won’t fit my hips and breasts because I don’t have the body of a man (or an anorexic teenager for that matter, bring back normal sized models).

Good grief.

Having seen the video that picture has been photoshopped to the point it's an entirely different person's face.

Why is it necessary to obliterate D altogether from that image in order to sell it? I can't think.

nilsmousehammer · 07/04/2023 10:50

Because here’s the thing; the fetishisation of the few at the expense of the many is insane, insulting and an act (I hope) of commercial suicide that will release the pendulum to swing back and whack the wokerati right in their pronouns....

Excellent article btw.

AngeloMysterioso · 07/04/2023 10:51

Meanwhile, for a dose of sanity, here is an actual woman doing some actual exercise-

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqsbV29KWq6/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

UltimateWario · 07/04/2023 11:26

AngeloMysterioso · 07/04/2023 10:51

Meanwhile, for a dose of sanity, here is an actual woman doing some actual exercise-

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqsbV29KWq6/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Wow. If there was a Nike tick across that montage I would be inspired to buy some leggings and get to the gym right now.

What fuck ups they are.

Maerchentante · 07/04/2023 17:12

And of course, Nike has asked for people to be kind and be inclusive.

As so often, do as I say, not do as I do. It did not seem very kind or inclusive when they cut Alison Felix' sponsorship during her pregnancy. Nor does it seem kind and inclusive that only 1% of their sponsorship money goes to women.

ErrolTheDragon · 07/04/2023 17:34

Sorryyoufeelthatway · 07/04/2023 09:19

Beyond parody

I've not RTFT, but having just watched the video - it's exactly like a bloke parodying a 'camp' man prancing around. Confused

RedToothBrush · 07/04/2023 19:59

Maerchentante · 07/04/2023 17:12

And of course, Nike has asked for people to be kind and be inclusive.

As so often, do as I say, not do as I do. It did not seem very kind or inclusive when they cut Alison Felix' sponsorship during her pregnancy. Nor does it seem kind and inclusive that only 1% of their sponsorship money goes to women.

Streisand effect. It's going to draw a huge amount of unwanted pr on their sexism.

littlbrowndog · 07/04/2023 20:31

Misstache · 06/04/2023 10:32

long rant ahead:

This reminds me of my peak trans moment when there was a celebration in my area for accomplished girls and my friend’s daughter was a finalist. All the actual girls had extraordinary accomplishments - the typical bio would be “three years ago she came to this country as a refugee not knowing a word of English. Now she’s in all advanced classes, is the captain of the volleyball team, started a tutoring program in her community and began a campaign encouraging girls to play sports” or “she’s played violin with the symphony and has had her compositions played. In her spare time she loves science and her project was selected for the national science fair. After she lost her father to cancer she began a fundraising initiative for medical awareness…”

You know where I’m going with this. The girls had to get up and do a speech/performance demonstration. All the girls showed up beautifully dressed, many in cultural clothing, and performed instruments or read their published writing, or gave a presentation about their non-profit. Then there was a Trans girl. No accomplishments but “being their authentic self” as though the refugee girls and hijabis and black girls didn’t have to walk around in their authentic bodies all day. They came out in heels and a feather boa and a totally inappropriate outfit and strutted around the stage not even dancing. They got a standing ovation and won. It was at that moment, seeing all the girls from difficult backgrounds who had achieved so highly, and seeing how real girls had to be so talented -athletic, academically excellent, extraordinary accomplishments, community minded, articulate and bright - that I saw the sexism.

Dylan’s idea of girlhood is offensive. Most girls I know weren’t having sleepover giggle fests. Girls from poor backgrounds have to work to help support their families. Elder daughters by the age of 9 and 10 are caring for younger siblings and taking on duties around the house. Girls in immigrant and refugee families have to navigate the world for parents who don’t speak English. Girls live crammed into small apartments with generations of their families and don’t have their own room. Girls are abused and beaten at home. Girls are monitored by their families and have to sneak out to meet friends or boys. Girls are studying and working so they can go to a good university and a scholarship is the only way they can afford it. Even the stereotypical wealthy white girls who do have the clothes and the bedroom and the pool are off doing activities and lessons and sports and are struggling with mental health or body issues and stress and pressure like anyone else . None of these girls get a perfect girlhood and no woman who worked through girlhood and took care of siblings is indulged in re-enacting girlhood as a grown adult because they missed out.

Girls who actually dance and cheerlead aren’t skipping awkwardly around their garden they’re working hours a day to perfect difficult skills. They’re all over YouTube being actually talented.

This is so true great post

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