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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
Thelnebriati · 05/04/2023 12:57

IDK if this will be deleted as its an archived link archive dot is/rcw0w
(The Times allows it to be archived)

HagoftheNorth · 05/04/2023 13:18

Great article, thank you for sharing.
I especially like that it makes the point that decent men don’t really understand how threatened women can feel in everyday situations. Maybe if they did, more of them would be more openly GC

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 05/04/2023 13:40

Cor that’s a cracker

Jenni Russell 100% gets it. No conflation of sex and gender, no talk of ‘most marginalised’

brava

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 05/04/2023 13:41

It is impossible for women to distinguish between the genuinely dysphoric men who just wish to live peacefully as women, and men with bad intent. There is no marker. Voyeurs, exhibitionists, sexual fetishists, predators and men who enjoy making women uneasy and humiliated have the right to enter any female space once sex segregation has been abandoned.

<stands and applauds>

ErrolTheDragon · 05/04/2023 13:50

Excellent summary of the issues.

Hoardasurass · 05/04/2023 14:48

Oh dear things really aren't going the way he hoped is it 🤣🤣🤣

Pixiedust1234 · 05/04/2023 15:00

Thank you for the share token. That was very well written.

Westfacing · 05/04/2023 15:06

Thank you for sharing - great article.

cupofteaandnetflix · 05/04/2023 15:15

Ty for sharing

wantmorenow · 05/04/2023 15:25

Thank you for sharing. I really wish men would stand up for us much more than is the case now. I feel let down that some, many, men see is as a women's issue and not their concern.

Keepthetowel · 05/04/2023 15:29

My DH agreed with all those arguments and then said but TWAW, he even said he wouldn’t sleep with one because TW aren’t his thing, so he knows there’s a difference. I think it’s a slogan they’ve been brainwashed with. my son thinks I’m old fashioned. They just don’t think about it.

Beeswood · 05/04/2023 16:13

Thank you so much for sharing this.

It is so eloquently written and says everything I feel about the situation.

circleback · 05/04/2023 16:28

Thank you!

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yogacushions · 05/04/2023 16:32

nailed it ! Fuck Starmer and his wilful ignorance

PopGoesTheProsecco · 05/04/2023 16:59

Thanks for the share token. Great article and fantastic summary of the issues.

nepeta · 05/04/2023 18:45

It is a good summary of the short-term issues, and written in a way which is more likely to get men to support the gender critical arguments. I so often see comments from men pointing out how this issue affects only such a tiny percentage of people that it shouldn't be discussed at all while other more serious issues are happening.

Bláthannabuí · 05/04/2023 22:21

Have to share this from one of the Twitter trans activists who's waiting for a labour canvessor... First rule of battle never give away your game plan.. Very top tweet in the pic... "I'm going to pretend to be GC😂😂😂 I'm howling!

Starmer is taking 99.99% of women for fools - can anyone do share token?
Circumferences · 05/04/2023 22:25

Keepthetowel · 05/04/2023 15:29

My DH agreed with all those arguments and then said but TWAW, he even said he wouldn’t sleep with one because TW aren’t his thing, so he knows there’s a difference. I think it’s a slogan they’ve been brainwashed with. my son thinks I’m old fashioned. They just don’t think about it.

Ugh. Totally dripping in male privilege. How infuriating.

SugarAndSpiceIsNice · 06/04/2023 09:08

Thank you for sharing. Wonderfully written and expressed in a clear, logical way.

LindorDoubleChoc · 06/04/2023 09:27

Very tight well-written argument which covers a lot of ground pretty clearly.

I just wish every single person in the country would read it!

Abhannmor · 06/04/2023 09:47

A brilliant article which makes its points very succinctly.

Something occurred to me reading her conclusion. Starmer attacks and expels left wing members of his party with impunity. He boasts about it even.

So why does he not face down the misogynists with the same firmness , not to say zeal? I've often wondered how you can square being a socialist with this regressive nonsense. Perhaps there is no ' read across ' between TRAs and the left after all and this is why Sir Kier can't upset the gender lobby.

HumphreyCobblers · 06/04/2023 10:01

Thanks OP. I saw this and then couldn't work out how to do a share token and then got distracted, am so glad you posted!

It is a superb clear article. And Jenni Russell acknowledged Janice Turner in the comments too.

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