Suella Braverman vows to stamp out grooming gangs behind organised child sex abuse

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The Home Secretary, writing in The Mail on Sunday, pledges to 'track down and punish the grooming gangs with the same sense of mission and determination' used to pursue the murderers of Stephen Lawrence, the black British teenager who was killed in a racially motivated attack at a bus stop in South London in 1993.

Ms Braverman, who was born in Harrow, in North-West London, to a Kenyan mother and Mauritian father, writes: 'The time has come to make right one of the greatest injustices seen in Britain in modern times. The systematic rape, exploitation and abuse of young girls by organised gangs of older men – and the disgraceful failure of the authorities to act despite ample evidence – is a stain on our country.'

A Buddhist, Ms Braverman describes the 'perpetrators' as 'groups of men, almost all British-Pakistani, who hold cultural attitudes completely incompatible with British values'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11928629/SUELLA-BRAVERMAN-mission-ensure-really-no-hiding-place-gangs-grooming-young-girls.html

I am not sure if this is just the DM take on what she said, or if it accurately reflects what she said.

If she did say this and not talk about how men of all cultures, given the opportunity, have and will exploit young women, then she is letting down all the women who are exploited.

What about abused brown girls?

Whataboutery indeed.

It’s a massive dog whistle to make it about “white girls”.

For every girl who was a victim of this, regardless of their colour. The vast majority white. And a small percentage brown. Although it's quite clear the lack of interest and derailment is due to the majority of the victim's being white.

Not when the majority of the victims were white it isn't.

Again, that’s bullshit.

What lack of interest are you talking about? From the authorities? That’s because of their socio-economic background, not because of the colour of their skin.

The Home Office’s own report said this wasn’t about race so why make it about one, other than to blow that dog whistle?

This is about vulnerable girls being left to fend for themselves. I was a child growing up in foster care and I shudder to think how things could have gone if I didn’t have decent foster parents.

No Hun. It's not bullshit. But you keep blowing that whistle.

I can't believe the amount of people coming on here detailing, knowing damn well what's behind this, who the majority of victims are and who the perpetrators are.

And trying to derail it by whataboutery and changing the topic.

This has been the problem for 40 years.

Shame on you.

I'm not smoking anything. Look to your own hands and inner bigotry.

I'm trying to say you don't understand international law as it works in UK law.

Not that it matters anyway.

They are clearly "illegals" regardless of whether they can claim asylum.

@Believeitornot so sorry that happened to you. First time I heard that this is what happened I was shocked and stunned. At 16 I had not idea how to handle money, cook properly, alone have the mental and emotional strength to take responsibility for myself.

So fantastic that you came through what must have been a really hard experience.

And I cant believe it is still going on. Or even, when a child is forstered they are meant to leave the family fostering them, which is not only heartless but at a time that hopefully they will be settled in school taking exams etc..

How is it that our bureaucracies are so incapable of setting up systems that genuinely help.

I have been thinking about this, the focus on the profile of the victims ie- white, working class, known to social services , etc, etc, keeps being fallen into as people struggle to look for solutions, particularly ideologically comfortable solutions. ‘Protecting the vulnerable’.

It is similarly shifting the focus of responsibility from the perpetrators to the victim - reminiscent of the oft asked question (before feminists fought to put a stop to it) “Why are some women in abusive relationships, what do they have in common?” as a very rubbish, inadequate starting point for tackling prevalent DV.

When

The only thing all victims of DV have in common is a violent partner.

It is the perpetrator who calls all the shots and makes all the choices.

So we need to focus on the perpetrators. Who are they? What do they believe? How and where do they associate? How can they be recognised before they start offending? Etc, et bloody cetera.

I would argue that the fact that these girls are white is relevant because their race is part of the reasons the perpetrators target them, it is essential to their belief that they are superior to their victims.

The perpetrators need to be profiled, targeted, stopped and punished.

That’s all.

It’s so awful. I wish there was a scheme to unite ‘empty nesters’ with care leavers, so they could help them through their late teens.

Do social services not work with families as well or is it now limited to those in care?

They do work with families, but not all victims are known to social services.

Bloody hell. I despair at the awfulness of some of the posters on here at times. Appalling.

Do you think that international law works differently in different countries or is it just in the UK that it works differently?

Am I right in thinking that you are saying that illegal migrants can perfectly legally claim asylum? That being so, why is anyone calling them illegal and not simply asylum seekers, which is what they are?

Would improved social services help both those in familes and in care?

Improved social services would help lots of people, far greater in number than the minority who form part of the cohort of girls who are targeted by Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs.

Wouldn't it be excellent if the government announced that they were going to increase social service spending back to 2010 levels.
While they were at it they could reverse the 25% cuts to the criminal justice system as well.
Imagine the impact that would have.

Yes that would, but I don’t think that is within the remit of the home office.

There is a specific issue with grooming gangs of Pakistani men who were not challenged sue to fears of racism. We let down those children very very badly indeed. Not all Pakistani men are paedophiles of course and there are paedophiles of all backgrounds too. But there is a specific issue here that hasn’t been satisfactorily dealt with.

we should not abandon our children and ignore sexual violence because we are afraid to be called racist. Let’s stop putting women and children last

Criminal justice is the responsibility of the Ministry of Justice. Perhaps its minister of state could occssionally make time to have a chat with the home secretary and they could work jointly on policies?

Let’s stop putting women and children last

Absolutely.