escalating violence

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Just that. Does anyone else think the increasingly violent scenes (such as recently witnessed in NZ) shows that the Koolaid gang realise the gig is up and are lashing out in fury and frustration?

there were incidents on both sides just to add

were there indeed?

After all, what else do they have?

It all stems from having to defend a lie.

I could stand with people who argue thus: some men are transvestites. Some men are transexual. Some people like to challenge societal norms and present as something other than the two traditional sexes and their stereotypical presentation. We should cherish and celebrate diversity.

I cannot agree with: there are 74 genders; if you question the fact that men cannot turn into women you are a bigot, no-one is allowed an alternative point of view ever, rans women are women and I am so upset by women saying I am wrong that I wish they were dead.

I'm not condoning any of the individual acts of violence (there were incidents on both sides just to add). However protesting in NZ is a legal right, and 2,000 protestors making noise is going to be very loud.

who did those women assault? I haven’t seen any stories of them attacking anyone but I’ve seen many stories of males attacking the women for daring to want to speak. Would you have defended anyone protesting a rally in favour of trans rights or would you have condemned those people, even though they were acting legally? Why is it ok to all assault people for speaking if they are female? The Nazis there were also speaking freely but they didn’t get attacked. Why was that?

Their experiences as women. That's what KJK does, provides à platform for women to speak.

I remain irritated by people rushing here to scold us while knowing literally nothing about the events.

Now, you know that you're talking shit. And I know that you're talking shit. And you know that I know that you're talking shit. But it doesn't stop you.

@MerlinsLostMarbles so why were the police protecting the Nazis and not the women? Why did antifa attack the women and not the Nazis? We’re the Nazis indeed Nazis? Are the police and antifa misogynistic twatsticks?

I feel so sorry for the rainbow people. If only this horrible society didn't ban them from mobile phone ownership then they could share films of all the physical violence women have committed against them at events.

On other threads merlin has included that political lady who ended up crawling after being taken out by the police as an example of KJKs supporters violence and someone being knocked down by a motorcycle

as far as i can see KJKs supporters were just trying to get away from that mob…ideally in one peace

Yep

but its ok we’ve got merlin talking rubbish about it so it’s nearly as good as actual evidence

Yes, the TRAs are increasingly violent and unhinged. Their entire movement is a discursive event and it requires that faithful followers chant the words mindlessly.

Intimidating women into silence is the only move they have left because all it takes to unravel their ideology is to speak clearly and plainly.

The "political lady" you refer to is Aboriginal woman Lidia Thorpe. If the protest also includes women then what does that suggest to you?

Do you want all women to speak? Or only the ones who agree with you?

I can’t wait to hear @MerlinsLostMarbles explanation as to why antifa attacked women and not actual Nazis. And to see the proof of the violence by the women.

@MerlinsLostMarbles sorry to double post but are you claiming the sane police you were applauding earlier in the thread were attacking the gender ideologists? For any reason, or do the NZ/Aus police just hate all women indiscriminately?

When an anti-trans event is planned,

What were they talking about? Or intending to talk about?

Two separate posts from Merlin not even 15 minutes apart. Firstly absolute resolute it was an anti-trans event, but also no idea what the content was. This is dizzy heights of square pegs and round holes.

I was at LWS in Glasgow so I know what was spoken about. Womens prisons, womens safety, girls toilets in schools, domestic abuse, the police, our elected politicians and more. It was a wonderful event attended by passionate, articulate women of all ages and diverse social backgrounds. I've never seen or heard a tra engage on a single thing that was spoken about. All they have is drowning our voices out.

I think people are allowed to disagree with Lidia Thorpe and lots of people do.

Just because she is a woman, doesn't mean she's right all the time.

Ah, women "provoke" men with our words. If we'd just stop talking, the poor little oppressed men wouldn't need to batter us.

Keep making your shitty excuses.

Women have had years of provocation (to put it mildly) from anti-woman activists. They've assaulted us, threatened to rape and kill us, tracked down our children's schools with threats to hurt them, they've unlawfully discriminated against us, and on and on.

Yet women have managed to keep our hands to ourselves. We've never turned up to a trans event and cracked a trans persons skull or broken their bones.

The posters that keep popping up to victim blame should go and spew their MVAWG-condoning bullshit on the incel and MRA type subs on Reddit, you'll fit right in there.

They are going to get worse, they are going to be barred from certain professions and imprisoned by the Home Secretary.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11928625/Suella-Braverman-vows-stamp-grooming-gangs-organised-child-sex-abuse.html

In vino veritas

Ah, crack 72 year old's skull first, ask questions later.

Lidia Thorpe of lets lie down in front of a pride float fame ran at PP from behind and security stopped her. What was her intention? Was it to intimidate, threaten attack - in that situation know one knows. I gather security tried to help her up but she would rather make a spectacle of herself crawling across the grass in her hiking heels. If she had waited in turn she could have asked to speak. That’s what the other women do. Lidia is a woman yes but she’s not that special that she can push her way in.

Sorry to disappoint, I haven't had any alcohol since last summer, I am not into alcohol, I am however very tired in every way one can be.

Maybe someone is projecting 🍷 ?

The do desire the arrests of groomers and incompetent people we fund as taxpayers to safeguard.

Yes. I sincerely believe a lot of these people are radicalised and should be on some kind of 'Prevent' programme. Instead they're treated as 'special' by politicians and the police. It really worries me, they are radicalised by an ideology and people in power can't see it and cheer them on. I can't really think on another example where that's happened to this extent.

I'm not sure it's that simple.

I do think that the situation in places like NZ and Canada is really different. Gender ideology and id politics are winning, and there is very little public resistance - many people who disagree are still much too scared to do so publicly and all institutions are captured, 99.9% of the media are captured.

Most people will not even know what this guy is talking about. They still think that being trans in a kind of intersex condition in the brain.

It's not about trans people imho.
It's about trans activists and the ever more aggressive notion that biological sex is completely irrelevant despite the fact you cannot change your entire skeletal structure no matter how much outward surgery you have.

I get where you're trying to come from to an extent, but words are not literal physical violence - and those of us who have concerns about private spaces such as changing rooms, sports, etc, should be allowed to voice our concerns without being silenced, called a hateful bigot for talking about our lived experiences.

Everyone gets a "lived experience" except for women with gender critical views it seems :s

I've been punched by a man, I've seen domestic abuse from men, I've seen drunk women fighting vs drunk men fighting, we've seen time and time again professional women's sports teams taking on teenage boys, and losing.

And we can't talk about that because it might hurt someone's feeling's?
Surely it erases trans people to suggest there are no differences between the sexes, because if that's the case why bother transitioning to begin with?
There's no difference, right?