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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Dr Laura Favaro is taking City University to an employment tribunal

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 01/04/2023 19:16

Relevant thread from last year: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4634273-times-article-on-academia

This is what she says on a well-known gardening site (can't link here, but should be easily found via search engine). Sounds like a very important case. She has an excellent legal team lined up but this will be expensive.

Summary
I'm an academic who has been researching the silencing, discrimination and harassment of female academics who raise questions about gender identity theory, including those that are ‘gender critical’ such as myself. As a consequence, I have been ostracised, subjected to false complaints, had my research stopped, my research data taken away, and I have lost my job. I’m raising funds because I am having to take the case to an Employment Tribunal.

Who am I?
My name is Laura Favaro. I am a Spanish sociologist, schoolteacher, and mum of two little boys. In 2020 we moved to the UK so that I could join City, University of London as Postdoctoral Research Fellow to investigate the disputes around sex and gender that have escalated dramatically since the 2010s.
I have collected large amounts of data on the ‘gender wars’ in academia. You can read about some of the findings in my Times Higher Education article called Researchers are wounded in academia's gender wars. You can also watch a talk , and another one .

There you will find harrowing testimonies by female academics across disciplines and careers stages: too afraid to voice their views, even to work in gender studies altogether; citing not just concerns about their jobs but fears over violence, putting their children at risk, and more. Some of them hold gender-critical views, others simply want to ask questions about aspects of the theory and movement of gender identity or transgender. You will also find the admissions of those who actively support the censoring, bullying and persecution of gender-critical academics in British universities and beyond.

One result of my Times Higher Education piece was that my university, City, received complaints alleging that I had somehow been unethical during my research. These complaints were baseless: City investigated and could find no ethical wrongdoing on my part. But despite this, I have been frozen out, and further such baseless accusations have been taken at face value, leading to the suspension of my research, and the withdrawal of access to my data.

I have been told at City that the university considers my research data to be dangerous, that it is frightened of having the findings made public, that it does not want to become involved in the sex and gender debate – and that things would have been different if I believed that ‘trans women are women’. Indeed, colleagues have described my Times Higher Education article publicly as an ‘attack piece on trans people’, and claimed that my research ‘clearly intended to cause harm’; while internally I have been described as an institutional risk, and even a risk to research participants, with calls to restrict my use of my research data to ensure it is ‘acceptable’.

It is difficult to overemphasize the toll this can take personally and professionally – not least for a more junior and precarious academic.

Please help me fight for academic freedom. Please help me push back against the persecution of academics with feminist or gender critical views. Enough is enough!

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ExUCU · 03/04/2023 08:22

One of her talks (linked on another thread) gives you a good flavour of the kind of material she has. The slides alone are very revealing. Nothing avid readers of this board didn’t know but to have it in black and white …

OldCrone · 03/04/2023 10:31

This case really does show that genderism is a religion. On her gardening page it says that City University told her "that things would have been different if I believed that ‘trans women are women’."

Since when was any sort of belief necessary to do impartial research?

OldCrone · 03/04/2023 10:42

I am actually gob smacked by this one. Even though I have watched so many other academics experience the bullying, this one is really bonkers. I could be reading details into it, but it sounds like someone in the department got funding or otherwise designed a research project to look into the gender wars in academic feminism, and employed her to do it. What did they expect her to find? This was the only possible outcome. Unless they hoped a twaw academic would falsify or twist findings, or only interview other academics with pink/blue flags in their bios.

I wonder if some of the academics caught up in the genderism movement have lost sight that there is another side to this. Have they believed the hype that feminists are all Nazis who think that transpeople shouldn't have the right to exist and so that's all she'd find when she interviewed them?

Funding someone to research whether academics are being bullied and ostracised and then bullying and ostracising the academic they've employed to research this when she finds that they are really is absurd.

NorthernLights2023 · 03/04/2023 16:11

I feel like the other side believe whatever they want to believe. As a student, I had to keep quiet at my former university because of this stuff and I know another woman (another lesbian like myself, surprise!) who has to keep quiet about this stuff in order to get through her course. The trans movement has crushed honest research about women's issues and gay rights issues and if we are to make progress, we need cases like Laura's to teach these anti-women, anti-gay universities a lesson. I'm fully behind her. I'll donate again if I can afford to down the line.

Elaphola · 04/04/2023 08:41

Gardening going well, she’s very nearly at 50 thousand carrots!

Backstreets · 04/04/2023 09:45

Unis have obviously been very lefty for a good few decades but bloody hell, they were still about the exchange of ideas, truth seeking and debate. If they’d rather peddle religious doctrine, silencing of wrongthink and false emotive narratives, what use are they??

Joinupdotty · 04/04/2023 11:11

Elaphola · 04/04/2023 08:41

Gardening going well, she’s very nearly at 50 thousand carrots!

Amazing! If that doesn't indicate how many people support her, what on earth would?

ExUCU · 04/04/2023 12:36

She is on to her stretch target now. Still can’t get over the fact they took away her data …?!?

Dionysiana · 04/04/2023 12:51

Ex UCU: I don´t know for sure, but I imagine that as an employee, her work legally ´belongs´ to the university, hence the ability to take it away from her. But why they would want to do that I think relates to something Prof. Alice Sullivan said in a speech recently at the "Silencing women: academic freedom and unthinkable thoughts" conference: "This isn´t just an attempt to stop us from speaking, it´s an attempt to stop us from knowing." See her full speech here: 2

My feeling is that this is part of a concerted effort to ensure that the question "Where´s your evidence?" becomes unanswrable because we are being forbidden to collect, publish or read it.

Prof Alice Sullivan speaking at “Silencing Women: Academic Freedom and Unthinkable Thoughts”

Professor Alice Sullivan of UCL, speaking at the feminist event “Silencing Women: Academic Freedom and Unthinkable Thoughts” held on International Women’s Da...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?index=2&list=PLgN9ExoTO5CteE5BeTpca1Sxj3y9GCXoP&v=5asI8RnZuIc

dimorphism · 04/04/2023 13:16

Have just watched the video. The quotes from pro-gender academics have a lot more swearing in them and just so much more dismissive.

The number of academics saying they're staying silent on this debate because they're scared for the safety of their children is pretty chilling.

What have universities become? The opposite of what they should be. I'm not ok with my taxpayers money funding this and will simply not financially support my DDs to go to universities encouraging this climate of fear.

ExUCU · 04/04/2023 13:40

There is a word for the production of ignorance, agnotology. It actually describes quite well what is going on.

Treaclemine · 04/04/2023 14:05

Two things have occurred to me, reading this.
Are any males attacked for their academic work (or are none doing it)?
And storing data backup off campus in a form difficult for malicious searchers to access. Paper printout under insulation in the loft, occurs to me. DVD disguised as a Harry Potter video used as a bird scarer. SD card inside the lid of instant coffee, under the liner.
This is war.
And if the other side is going to use the Bailey Bridge principle (Mr Bailey was in the army when he designed it so they owned the patent) they must expect the enemy to use tactics to suit. Fair dealings.

ExUCU · 04/04/2023 14:31

I guess the problem is that if the University has officially taken away your data you cannot use it for publication, even if you have it backed up.

Elaphola · 04/04/2023 15:02

I think the university will be the data controller so has legal responsibility for the data (?) BUT it’s completely normal practice for data to be transferred with a researcher when they leave an institution. Otherwise academics wouldn’t be able to move jobs part way through projects and most academic projects go on for several years.

Dionysiana · 04/04/2023 16:17

Elaphola: it is indeed completely normal practice to let researchers take their data with them, but I think it´s a courtesy, rather than a right. And in normal circumstances of course, no university worth its salt would dream of objecting.

However, in my country at least, academics who want their work to be their own property must sign a specific contract with the university to that effect, although this generally only happens in the case of research results that would be finiacially profitable (i.e. inventions).

paperflowers55 · 04/04/2023 17:20

I graduated from this Uni only 6 years ago, I've not come across a single FTM or MTF student while there so not sure why they thought this might upset someone internally. It must be a weird PR thing. Nonetheless, I find their decision very odd.

paperflowers55 · 04/04/2023 17:21

Just to add that the atmosphere in City was mostly serious and everyone was hyper-focused on their studies, most students were also international. It's not like Bristol Uni where there is a bit more focus on this topic. so again odd

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/04/2023 18:57

Specific to the department/research group? I was wondering if there had been a change of management between Dr Favaro being recruited/getting the grant 9 (or City getting the grant, not clear on this point) and the present.

Anyway, so pleased to see how much she's raised in under four days. It sounds horrific.

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/04/2023 18:57

(Ignore that 9, no idea what it's doing there. I'll blame my broken finger.)

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StellaAndCrow · 04/04/2023 19:30

I've just watched the video - the whole presentation is fascinating.

Lara interviews genderists (supporters of gender ideology) who are working academically in the field of gender studies.

They talk about not understanding the words that they themselves are using; realising that what they say is not clear or evidence; that it's something they "just know" rather than understand. They want to support trans friends and be a good ally, they "just know" that they're on the right side. They think someone else will be able to explain it better.

And there's fear on that side too - several participants told Lara that they valued the chance to discuss the issues, would like to be able to have more discussions like the one they had with her (but specified the discussion should be with trans-inclusive feminists, which reminded me of a thread on here . . .)

OU GCRN webinar: Dr. Laura Favaro 'Gender Wars' in Academia

Open University Gender Critical Research Network. Webinar. Dr Laura Favaro: 'Gender Wars' in Academia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4uQ0MN66es

StellaAndCrow · 04/04/2023 19:32

It's such an interesting piece of work. Lara managed to get both genderists and gender critical academics to speak to her openly.

And she has very useful definitions of terms and concepts.

StellaAndCrow · 04/04/2023 19:35

Sorry it's Laura not Lara - apologies Laura.

ExUCU · 04/04/2023 20:28

Yes, it is fascinating research. I remember when Laura published her THE piece and the ensuing brouhaha. If I recall correctly, Alison Phipps said on Twitter that she ‘had been had‘, acknowledging that she had been one of the interviewees. I wonder if she was one of those who let her their guard down. She overreacted in an astonishing way, publicly plotting with other transfeminists to damage Laura’s academic reputation. I still can’t quite believe this has actually happened. Why does Phipps still have a job but Laura doesn’t? Academic spats occur all the time but normally not like this.

Lovecleansheets · 06/04/2023 11:02

Thank you for posting, OP. This case sends shivers through me because academic freedom to research and publish are central to a civilised democracy.

It’s been a good morning to dig 🥕

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