Suing the sorority that accepted a transgender woman

[ZeldaFighter]

7 past and present sorority members are suing a University of Wyoming sorority for admitting a transgender woman.

I've started to think this is the only way forward - lawsuits attract sunlight, publicity and often cost people money!

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/03/28/women-sue-university-of-wyoming-sorority-for-accepting-transgender-member/

Several things jumped out - unfair voting procedures, pressure to comply, letting a biological man into a physical and metaphysical space for women, the biological man being intact and attracted to women...same old, same old!

This sounds like a positive move. But no idea what a sorority is, or what those Greek letters mean. Is it basically a hall of residence at an American university?

This 'voting' reminds me that places like North Korea also 'vote', 'cause 'democracy' innit? What a farce, I suppose they couldn't just say 'he's now a member, shove your objections where the sun don't shine', but in effect that's exactly what they did.

I've never encountered a more anti-liberal movement than gender ideology and 'trans liberation', it still shocks me that it's somehow accepted as 'progressive'.

😂

Let’s hope they win this case!

I sometimes think many people reckon that any social change is "progressive" without taking time to evaluate it. What I don't understand is why many people fail to consider whether or not a change is a good thing or not.

Alpha Gamma Pi 😂

All power to the women pushing back against this blatant mockery of a long established female institution by a rather unsavoury male. Be kind, indeed!

This sounds like a positive move. But no idea what a sorority is, or what those Greek letters mean. Is it basically a hall of residence at an American university?

It's a bit more than that. You live in the sorority so yes it's a residence but it's also like a social club/source of connections so the best ones will be really competitive to get into as having that on your cv and making those connections will be an advantage in your future career.

This whole thing is horrific, but I can't fathom how this person was even able to be put forward for election given that their grade point average was massively below the 2.7 average required by everyone else. Who got to decide on that and why? What authority did they have over the sorority?

This is actually even better than at first glance. The social class of the complainants is important.

Contrary to propaganda and widespread belief, USian society is extremely class-riddled, and fraternities and sororities are a vital element in this.

For instance Cornell University itself says, "while only 2 percent of America’s population is involved in fraternities, 80 percent of Fortune 500 executives, 76 percent of U.S. senators and congressmen, 85 percent of Supreme Court justices, and all but two presidents since 1825 have been fraternity men".

Sororities are less influential, but their members are overwhelmingly upper middle class. Obviously their families have the money and the social status to risk suits like this, but they are also influential in the political and cultural life of the country.

A Sorority is effectively a “club” for young women at US Universities (a Fraternity is the male equivalent - you might have seen reference to Frat Boys or Frat Parties in films).

Being in a Sorority/Fraternity can infer kudos on you, being a member of a particular sorority/fraternity can be a bit like being in the Masons - networking opportunities, etc., as well as forming a big part of your social life.

Often there are Sorority/Fraternity houses on campus, so members of said group will all live together in a large house.

😂😂
I see what you did there...

The floodgates are open

David Adler, Ph.D., constitutional scholar and president of the Alturas Institute in Idaho, told Cowboy State Daily that the case has huge implications far beyond one sorority chapter on the UW campus – but also a few hurdles to overcome.

Adler said the lawsuit will inspire others like it in other states.

“This is kind of an issue that has a very good chance of winding up in the U.S. Supreme Court in a couple of years,” he said. “The floodgates are open.”

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/03/29/floodgates-are-open-with-lawsuit-challenging-uw-sorority-over-transgender-member/

Meanwhile, creepy man as been elected as a Democrat “committeewoman”.

It is hard to put into words but if you're a woman specifically choosing to join a women's group, there are reasons for that. Women have a kind of culture of their own which instantly disappears when a male enters

I agree so much with this. On the same grounds though I sympathised with men wanting some clubs just for men as I am sure the atmosphere changes completely for them when a woman is around.

I understand, that as women are often the underclass, that did lead to women feeling - and actually being - excluded from decisions and power, but I am sure men simply want to to be with other men sometimes.

This is different though as there are fraternities just for men where they can be alone. I wonder if transmen ever want to join these? I should think it wouldn’t be wise.

This is different though as there are fraternities just for men where they can be alone. I wonder if transmen ever want to join these? I should think it wouldn’t be wise.

That's actually been happening more and more, including transmen insisting on inclusion in gay male spaces used for sexual encounters.

Yes, absolutely. But what I really mean is how can they cope with the cognitive dissonance? How can they ignore or be so insouciant about the consequences? How can they be so naive about some men's motivations?

More background from October 2022 (apologies for giant link):

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/sorority-girl-at-university-of-wyoming-speaks-out-on-transgender-pledge-hes-just-calling-himself-a-girl/?bypass_key=WGZoZjZRZ1VSVzV0NzA5TittWEc1Zz09OjpaakJLV0dWNGVtNUtPR2RHVlRKVFFtRnlNV292ZHowOQ%3D%3D?utm_source%3Demail&utm_medium=breaking&utm_campaign=newstrack&utm_term=29448799&utm_source=Sailthru

Many of the KKG members, who the source said are scared to speak out of fear of retribution, feel that leadership is treating Langford as if he’s in a protected class and as if his membership matters more than theirs.

Don't see the problem women

yes he's a man.
yes he's not bothered about showing he's sexually attracted to the women
yes his Intelligence appears to be lower than the standard required
Yes the actual women are uncomfortable.
Yes the actual women are pressured into voting for him

BUT

He feels like a woman so there's no problem here.

As if being a woman isn't hard enough, we have to deal with this shit, too.

Exactly, @ScrollingLeaves
Male only emotional support or sport or social groups but not male supremacy or anti-women groups. Tough one.

Thanks for the explanation of sororities, FrostyFifi and CaveMum. Both wonderfully clear and concise.

Surely, surely these women will win their case. If not I worry women will end up in some sort of defacto western version of purdah for their own safety.
…once men are entitled to access to any woman they want, if she leaves her house…you can see where this ends.

Good for them

I think the women pushing it are motivated by a mix of

fear
brainwashing
avarice
internalised misogyny
ambition
naivety
idiocy
cruelty

depending on where they sit in the chain. A fellow student is likely to be genuinely scared, possibly naive. A Director of Safeguarding (say) pushing this stuff is more likely to be doing it out of a desire to enhance their careers via 'progressive' credentials, knowing damn well it's hurting women and children. And some women are Trunchbulls.

On a tangent, but over in my part of the UK I'm seeing so many new mens groups popping up - from gardening to mental health and peer support to walking groups.

There are absolutely no women's groups
I can find for the same activities locally.