Neil Kinnock's daughter in law's concerns about non-binary child's masectomy

[DerekFaker]

Denmark's first woman prime minister has spoken of her fears over her 23-year-old child's decision to have a double mastectomy after changing gender.

Helle Thorning-Schmidt – the daughter-in-law of former Labour grandees Neil and Glenys Kinnock – said she was concerned that Milo, previously known as Camilla, would no longer be able to breastfeed should children arrive on the scene.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11876703/amp/Mum-Neil-Kinnocks-granddaughter-reveals-fears-trans-son-gets-double-mastectomy.html

This.

I don’t find my breasts any impediment to swimming whatsoever. If you don’t like feeling exposed there are many places where you can buy modest swimwear these days.

It's almost like, 'Look at the effort and pain I've gone through. Now you have to treat me like a human being and not a woman.'

Isn't Stephen Kinnock, (this young woman's father) still a Westminster MP? Somebody should ask him if maybe this ideology isn't all it's cracked up to be. I am uncomfortable bringing family members into it but they are happy enough to flaunt their mentally ill adult children for woke points.

I assume Neil's dil means she is married to Stephens brother. Otherwise Neil would be her grandfather.

Stephen Kinnock’s wife is the former Danish PM. It is their 23yo child who has had the double mastectomy, as discussed in the podcast/interview. The DM article in theOP refers to the former Danish PM (Stephen’s wife) as Neil’s DIL. The 23yo is Neil’s grandchild.

5 years ago I had breast cancer, bi-lateral. It was touch and go whether the surgeon would have to remove both breasts. Luckily, having a D cup breast meant he could do bi-lateral lumpectomies. The relief was enormous!
Every time I see a post like this I cringe. Those stupid stupid people have no idea what they have done. Mutilating themselves for nothing. Their lives must be very empty

My sympathies are with the Kinnocks and their family. I doubt any of the adults told their child or grandchild "double mastectomy, what a fantastic idea". As someone said upthread, there's only so much you can put into words and there's only so much you can say to a child who is hellbent on self harm.

There's nothing special about politicians and their families. We're all vulnerable to this, it's hurting all of us.

We need wider recognition that a "nonbinary" identity is not physically harmless. And there's room for a big discussion about just how much these "nonbinary" identities are the result of internalised misogyny.

A fail of feminism?

Are you taking the piss?

This is a thread highlighting the global problem of young women and girls being groomed to have dangerous elective double mastectomies by pseudo religious indoctrination.

Do you really think the words used to described the ex Danish PM and her relationship to a British politician is the bigger issue here?

I think Helle will get over being called Neil Kinnock's daughter in law (mildly dismissive but factual). I doubt she will ever get over her daughter harming her own body because an insidious, misogynist ideology has gripped the West.

Fucks sake.

Heartbreaking. Healthy breasts removed from yet another gender non-conforming (lesbian? autistic?) young woman.

If I ruled the world, every surgeon carrying out these mastectomies would be obliged to record patient satisfaction (or not) ten years post op.

Do you really think the words used to described the ex Danish PM and her relationship to a British politician is the bigger issue here?

Yes, I do, as a matter of fact. Years and years of progress rolled back and everyone is so focussed on the side show they barely notice.

"I doubt she will ever get over her daughter harming her own body because an insidious, misogynist ideology has gripped the West."

Glad you feel empowered to speak on behalf of others. Takes some entitlement to opine on the feelings of people you don't even know. People who, you know, have already achieved greatness ... not simply by marrying the son of a former leader of the UK Labour Party. I mean it's not like she wasn't the freely elected leader of an EU member state and presumably knows her own mind and how to articulate her thoughts ... no, your doubts about what she must really feel clearly takes precedence.

Fucks sake yourself.

The mum thinks it’s “cool”…Jesus wept…

O frabjous day, my bingo card is complete!
A man has arrived to tell the wimmin how they are doing feminism all wrong.😁

Haven't seen one in the wild for a few weeks. Nice to know they're still typing away in their basements.

Going off on a tangent, but I thought they were divorced, thus making her Neil Kinnock’s ex DiL.

@Crouton19 breasts also are an area of sexual pleasure. So they are for the female concerned. Not purely for others. The act of breastfeeding helps bond mother and baby, in the early days the baby’s sucking causes a reaction to shrink the womb back to its pre pregnancy size.
I’m sure there are other aspects that I haven’t though of.

She’s saying that particular point probably because it’s a pragmatic statement of fact that her child can accept her mum thinks about. Her child is an adult and she doesn’t want to lose contact with them, quite understandably.

- -Do you really think the words used to described the ex Danish PM and her relationship to a British politician is the bigger issue here?- -

Yes, I do, as a matter of fact I do...

Well, never mind. Once you've left school, been to university and had a few years life experience, you'll look back at that, all embarrassed and go, "Coo, wha was I like!"

What makes her think, that the world has any interest in her, or her scars?
Is that all she amounts to? No stamp collection or extensive book shelf to discuss? Nothing that resembles, even very vaguely, a personality? Just scars where healthy tissue used to be until it was removed for no good reason, which, imo, is a grievous insult to women who have had mastectomies due to cancer.
And as for politicians - too busy nannying everyone else and their children and not enough time nannying their own!

What makes her think, that the world has any interest in her, or her scars?

Self absorbtion, perhaps? A desire for attention, for some sort of praise and validation from others?

Well, why are you coming across all "People's Poet?"

Yes, that's obvious to us, @SinnerBoy that it's probably attention seeking - look at me, aren't i just so stunning and brave, give me some attention, look at me, look at me! etc.
I just sometimes wonder how it plays in their heads. Do they genuinely think that we're all deeply interested and on tenterhooks, waiting to see their next move in life? There just always seems to be this thing with them, where they insist every man and his dog has to know all about their mental illness.

I just sometimes wonder how it plays in their heads. Do they genuinely think that we're all deeply interested and on tenterhooks, waiting to see their next move in life?

I tend to feel very sorry for them, whilst wishing they'd simply live their lives privately. I do wish that it was made far, far more difficult for these girls and young women, not least because of the cases of regret, which we've all read.

Completely. They are a pleasure zone not to be underestimated and to lose that for life... why women are cutting off their healthy breasts instead of having therapy for dysphoria or any other reason for disliking their bodies is beyond me.

Breasts are an erogenous zone.

Really? That's nice for you but not all women feel the same way. We are all still women. Unrealistic expectations of physical fulfilment may be part of the problem.