Did Rachel Reeves change anyone's mind re Labour?

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Apologies if there is already a thread but couldn't see one. Just got around to watching the RR interview from last week - www.mumsnet.com/news/mumsnet-founder-justine-roberts-puts-users-questions-to-shadow-chancellor-rachel-reeves there if anyone needs a link.

She seems to say quite clearly that Labour would protect women's spaces - and when Justine clarifies to ask if she means a woman on the basis of sex not gender, RR agrees that sex is the operative category!

I did not think we would see this from them. Does it change your mind?

I don’t think it’s an “old guy” problem with Starmer (if you think 60 is old!). From what one hears, it is the fact that he has a lot of advisers who are male and in the 30-45 age bracket. Lots of woke misogyny in that particular demographic, IMV.

Off topic, but Europe's oldest ever head of government, Konrad Adenauer, was 73 when he was elected as the first Chancellor of West Germany (FRG). Re-elected several times, he stayed in office until resigning aged 87. (He remained head of the governing CDU, which he co-founded, until his retirement at 90 and was serving as a Member of the Bundestag for Bonn when he died at the age of 91 in 1967.) He was a very shrewd political operator in West Germany's turbulent formative years during the Cold War and instrumental in the rebuilding of Germany's economy from the ashes of its destruction at the end of WWII, helped co-found what is now the EU, strengthened NATO, and built strong ties with France and Israel despite the enormous post-war mistrust of Germany arising from the recent Nazi era.

(Although the leader of the British zone of occupation had dismissed Adenauer from his position as Mayor of Cologne for "incompetence" before the FRG was formed, it was Adenauer's resentment at being treated as less than an equal of the British political administrators that was behind the move. His treatment by the British played a role in his subsequent election as Chancellor, which was a serious embarrassment for them.)

“The banks that collapsed was due to diversity hires” - this is news to me @LittleFingerStrength. Do you have any links?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11854497/SVB-hired-woke-board-obsessed-diversity-invested-5BN-healthier-planet.html

What has this got to do with Rachel Reeves and gender?

I was listening to a programme about her in Radio 4 tonight and thought how impressive she sounds.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001k7lw

It seems difficult to believe she wouldn’t see sense if she thought about the problems properly, but I not sure that she does.

I don’t think she is part of Labour Women’s Declaration is she?

The letter from Starmer is weighted to trans people. 3 paragraphs versus one for women. Nah this is a con to give people hope, but it doesn't actually say much at all and what it does say is all about trans issues not women's.

Look what happened inside the Tories. The TRAs were incredibly powerful 6 years back. Now they are broken, and part of that is down to women activists inside the party being clever, ruthless and advancing at all costs

Is it? Which ones specifically?

The pressure came from outside the parliamentary party, with support from a few brave women inside, most of whom were established from way before the TRA movement, so were relatively secure and able to speak out.

It's total fantasy to suggest that there was some secret GC resistance that infiltrated the Tories and gained power in a mysterious and invisible soft coup. Unless you think that the Baroness has been a GC sleeper agent who cunningly anticipated the rise of the TRAs when she first stood for the Tories in 1979?

This argument is just another variant on Labour's favourite "Pipe down, Women - it will be your turn soon, if you shut up and do as you're told".

Sleekit. Love that word. As we would say - he's a shleeveen.

I actually hope the Tras go for him now. He just reinvents it all as he goes along.