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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Parents get bill for security before gender talk at Porty library

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WandaWomblesaurus · 07/03/2023 22:33

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0158f5ee-bd0b-11ed-b039-425ba6c60d6d?shareToken=1657e05db536b4939b0dd736535f4f55

They've set up a gardening page if you look up "Defend Free Speech in Edinburgh"

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WandaWomblesaurus · 09/03/2023 18:00

lighthousebookshop.com/posts/trans-solidarity-call-to-action-in-support-of-queer-community-in-portobello-and-beyond

Not sure what the issue at Lighthouse books in Edinburgh is but it's clearly got an issue with concerned parents discussing issues that affect their children - I wonder why.

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ArabellaScott · 09/03/2023 18:25

What a bunch if dafties. Its not a counter protest. Its a protest.

MaryThorne · 09/03/2023 18:37

I see that they have reached their target on the gardening page. Great news!

Interesting thought that it was nowhere to be found on a google search but was pretty near the top searching on DuckDuckGo.

MaryThorne · 09/03/2023 18:37

MaryThorne · 09/03/2023 18:37

I see that they have reached their target on the gardening page. Great news!

Interesting thought that it was nowhere to be found on a google search but was pretty near the top searching on DuckDuckGo.

*though not thought

WandaWomblesaurus · 09/03/2023 19:36

But the Go Fund Me was targeted by Lighthouse books and other groups on Facebook and they've stopped access to the money.

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ArabellaScott · 09/03/2023 19:46

Edinburgh Council re open their survey on whether women feel safe in the city.

consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/cf/womens-safety-phase-two/

'Following the Women’s Safety in Public Places Consultation that took place over the summer of 2022, we are now seeking the views of Edinburgh residents once again on your perceptions of safety and factors that make you feel safe or unsafe. This consultation is open to anyone who lives, works, studies, socialises or commutes to Edinburgh.

We are doing this because we want to get your views on safety in public places during a different time of year and at least six months since the first consultation. Even if you have completed the survey before, please complete it again, as we want to know if and how your views have changed over the last 6 months.'

Childrenofthestones · 09/03/2023 20:16

Shocking but not unexpected. Not that it would ever happen but can you imagine the same attitude if it was a trans group meeting and a gender critical mob coming to harass them?

TheBiologyStupid · 09/03/2023 22:12

WaterThyme · 08/03/2023 10:00

There’s an article in the Times but I can’t see it for the pay wall

Here's an archived copy: archive.ph/169ys

WaterThyme · 09/03/2023 22:45

Thank you for supplying an archive link

ohfibonacci · 10/03/2023 08:21

Any update on this? I can’t see anything anywhere.

WaterThyme · 11/03/2023 07:40

Good article in the Scotsman says it’s going ahead.

www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/scotlands-transgender-debate-parents-concerned-about-rising-numbers-of-girls-identifying-as-male-have-a-right-to-free-speech-susan-dalgety-4059255

Edinburgh council have abandoned their responsibilities though.

ohfibonacci · 11/03/2023 08:09

Great article!

TheBiologyStupid · 11/03/2023 12:24

That's a great article - Edinburgh council should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

WandaWomblesaurus · 11/03/2023 16:43

The TRA are staging a "counter protest" egged on by Lighthouse Books and some of their Facebook groups.

Why is it a counter protest?

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NonnyMouse1337 · 12/03/2023 12:00

Bump! For those who haven't seen the discussion on this before.

rogdmum · 12/03/2023 21:37

There’s a very cross councillor angry tweeting about it:

”Despite protestations that this is simply a group of concerned parents seeking an open discussion, I think it is clear that this event will spread misinformation about inclusive education and hatred towards trans young people.”

twitter.com/alysgreens/status/1635019754942644224?s=61&t=8CxL28ZCFDq66yuIWhY6_Q

Green Party of course

ArabellaScott · 12/03/2023 22:38

An email for people to discuss at least, good to see someone willing to openly discuss the issue they have with parents meeting to discuss child safeguarding.

Waitwhat23 · 12/03/2023 23:06

As Alys has been on a spree to remove comments criticising her appalling behaviour, here's two very good threads by For Women Scotland and Edinburgh Feminists -

twitter.com/ForWomenScot/status/1635041671963373568?s=20

twitter.com/EdinFeminists/status/1635046504670060544?s=20

Waitwhat23 · 12/03/2023 23:14

And a Lib Dem Councillor has jumped on the incitement bandwagon -

twitter.com/EdinFeminists/status/1635050830960422913?s=20

WandaWomblesaurus · 12/03/2023 23:15

rogdmum · 12/03/2023 21:37

There’s a very cross councillor angry tweeting about it:

”Despite protestations that this is simply a group of concerned parents seeking an open discussion, I think it is clear that this event will spread misinformation about inclusive education and hatred towards trans young people.”

twitter.com/alysgreens/status/1635019754942644224?s=61&t=8CxL28ZCFDq66yuIWhY6_Q

Green Party of course

How do we complain about her behaviour?

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WandaWomblesaurus · 12/03/2023 23:39

Ah I see Alys has form

twitter.com/ForWomenScot/status/1494234388485316609?s=20

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WandaWomblesaurus · 13/03/2023 21:04

www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/portobello-library-parents-told-to-pay-ps600-for-security-after-edinburgh-gender-talk-plans-spark-protest-4062535

It's getting more and more ridiculous.
It's pure bullying.

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WaterThyme · 13/03/2023 22:04

The council is being urged to cancel the session altogether. The council is facing calls to cancel after Unite the union said it should be scrapped to protect library staff and members of the trans community. Comments are turned off.

All power to the parents’ group.

Atthecopacobana · 13/03/2023 22:25

Unbelievable, so angry about this.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 13/03/2023 22:31

Women are not human beings in Edinburgh