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Child Gender Medicine: the evidence by Sex Matters

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WarriorN · 24/02/2023 17:33

I've not seen it yet but sounds like it is forensic. Timely too with Hannah Barnes' book, the BMJ investigative article and several other recent articles

twitter.com/sexmattersorg/status/1629114717322051584?s=46&t=4kn73uVAFZwTikNDjmNytA

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WarriorN · 24/02/2023 19:05

Halfway through, a really in-depth analysis of the evidence that decisions to use pbs and cross sex hormones for children has been based on for sex matters by Michael Biggs and Mathilda Gosling.

Mathilda's evidence is in particular disturbing as so much has clearly been based on faulty assertions and twisted evidence.

Biggs mentions a girl named B who had pbs and at 20 was "doing well" though by 35 had essentially developed gender dysphoria due to difficulties sexually as a result of the drugs. However this was not seen as an issue.

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WarriorN · 24/02/2023 19:06

YouTube link

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WarriorN · 24/02/2023 19:10

Was about to add to the break it down for me thread but I see Winesalot already on it!

Hope she doesn't mine me c/p her post as I noted that slide too. Also the comparison of placebo effect next to "gender affirming care" when teens were treated for other MH conditions based on the same measures:

There is a slide in this presentation at 25.20 that I think is crucial to understand. That Wiepjes

Time to follow-up 4.6 yrs
Time to regret - 10.8 yrs

van der Loos et al (2023) & Wiepjes et al (2018)

That time to regret was noted in this study

academic.oup.com/jsm/article/15/4/582/6980345?login=false

"The Amsterdam Cohort of Gender Dysphoria Study (1972–2015): Trends in Prevalence, Treatment, and Regrets". April 2018

Chantal M. Wiepjes,
Nienke M. Nota,
Christel J.M. de Blok,
Maartje Klaver,
Annelou L.C. de Vries, S. Annelijn Wensing-Kruger,
Renate T. de Jongh,
Mark-Bram Bouman,
Thomas D. Steensma,
Peggy Cohen-Kettenis
Louis J.G. Gooren,
Baudewijntje P.C. Kreukels,
Martin den Heijer

"in our population the average time to regret was 130 months, so it might be too early to examine regret rates in people who started with HT in the past 10 years."

130 / 12 = 10.8

Child Gender Medicine: the evidence by Sex Matters
Child Gender Medicine: the evidence by Sex Matters
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MrsOvertonsWindow · 25/02/2023 17:24

Thank you for sharing this WarriorN.
It makes chilling listening but it's also reassuring to hear evidenced data and facts that centres children and their safety. It's a stark contrast to the emotive guilt tripping ramblings of those pushing their queer theory preferences at children and young people.

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