Was about to add to the break it down for me thread but I see Winesalot already on it!
Hope she doesn't mine me c/p her post as I noted that slide too. Also the comparison of placebo effect next to "gender affirming care" when teens were treated for other MH conditions based on the same measures:
There is a slide in this presentation at 25.20 that I think is crucial to understand. That Wiepjes
Time to follow-up 4.6 yrs
Time to regret - 10.8 yrs
van der Loos et al (2023) & Wiepjes et al (2018)
That time to regret was noted in this study
academic.oup.com/jsm/article/15/4/582/6980345?login=false
"The Amsterdam Cohort of Gender Dysphoria Study (1972–2015): Trends in Prevalence, Treatment, and Regrets". April 2018
Chantal M. Wiepjes,
Nienke M. Nota,
Christel J.M. de Blok,
Maartje Klaver,
Annelou L.C. de Vries, S. Annelijn Wensing-Kruger,
Renate T. de Jongh,
Mark-Bram Bouman,
Thomas D. Steensma,
Peggy Cohen-Kettenis
Louis J.G. Gooren,
Baudewijntje P.C. Kreukels,
Martin den Heijer
"in our population the average time to regret was 130 months, so it might be too early to examine regret rates in people who started with HT in the past 10 years."
130 / 12 = 10.8