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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

New documentary: Affirmation Generation

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unwashedanddazed · 19/02/2023 16:02

Can't see another thread about this doc, Affirmation Generation, that came out yesterday:

vimeo.com/800032857

Twitter mobile.twitter.com/2022affirmation

Lots of strong detrans voices and sensible professionals. A good rounded look at what's happened over the last 10 or 15 years. American focus but looking outward to what's now developing in Europe.

My only criticism is some of the graphics move a bit quickly for those of us who are no longer teenagers!

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Helleofabore · 19/02/2023 17:47

Thank you, I will add this to my list to watch.

Abhannmor · 19/02/2023 18:40

Thanks for that link. Why are the voices of detrans kids silenced - or muffled. Had Nicola Sturgeon listened to Sinead Watson she'd have avoided a lot of trouble.

PronounsBaby · 19/02/2023 19:15

I can't get Vimeo to work! It's sending me round in circles even though I have logged in! Anyone else had this problem? Do I need to pay to watch things?

CucumberCool · 19/02/2023 19:34

PronounsBaby · 19/02/2023 19:15

I can't get Vimeo to work! It's sending me round in circles even though I have logged in! Anyone else had this problem? Do I need to pay to watch things?

If anyone else is having this problem I downloaded the app and it works now .... 😅🤗

thefactsarefriendly · 19/02/2023 19:36

It's very powerful.

Justme56 · 19/02/2023 20:21

I watched it last night. It was really interesting. I couldn’t get Vimeo to work either. However if you are on twitter a few people have posted links which when I tried took me straight to it. I’ve attached a pic of one example if it helps.

New documentary: Affirmation Generation
DameMaud · 19/02/2023 22:25

I don't have Twitter but I was able to watch it straight from the twitter link in OP.

Thank you so much for posting this.

Very powerful film, I just doubt anyone watching it who needs to watch it most. Those entrenched will likely write it off as gender critical propaganda.
This is the frustrating place we are at.
I'd like to be proved wrong on this though.
Hopefully, it might reach some who have just started to question- after reading the NYT etc though.

FrancescaContini · 19/02/2023 22:28

Thank you for sharing this.

swallowedAfly · 21/02/2023 12:54

It is very much medical evidence and statistics based which lends it a lot of credibility imo. I cannot comprehend anyone watching this and not hearing massive alarm bells about what has been going on even if they were oblivious to the whole issue up till now. We were arranging conferences on this and having to have secret meeting points and last minute announcements of venues over a decade ago. Everything we humble mumsnet feminists were predicting as inevitable outcomes of this movement and being accused of being ridiculous or 'hysterical' about has been evidenced abundantly since.

Whatever you think of him personally the most recent GL round up of, 'this would never happen' etc events of the last week or so reads like exactly the, then, hypotheticals we were predicting in 2010-2013.

I note Labour are still pushing for self ID. I can't express how betrayed and politically homeless I find myself. Some misogyny you could overlook somewhat but this is so critical and fundamental to child protection and women's rights that I just cannot see a way to lend my vote to a party who supports it. Instead of just, wait let's get the important things sorted and then we'll get round to giving a shit about you women and your 'issues' we've moved to outright contempt for the rights and basic safety of women and children and the sacrifice of those foundatoins of civil society in order to do what exactly?

swallowedAfly · 21/02/2023 12:59

A man who raped a 3 month old baby had his work taken that he was a laydee and was put in a women's prison next door to a mother and baby unit fgs. It feels like they couldn't spell out louder that they don't give a shit about women and children even if they tried.

We are being publicly treated with utter contempt which obviously feeds into a culture of dehumanising and abusing women without fear of meaningful sanction.

scratchedbymycat · 21/02/2023 13:47

It is very much medical evidence and statistics based which lends it a lot of credibility imo. I cannot comprehend anyone watching this and not hearing massive alarm bells about what has been going on even if they were oblivious to the whole issue up till now.

Completely agree.

nepeta · 21/02/2023 17:08

I watched it last night and found it interesting, though it contained nothing that people here have not discussed, at least in general terms.

It was good on the diagnostic shadowing. I would have wanted more data, but then that data doesn't really exist, sigh.

swallowedAfly · 22/02/2023 08:16

Glad I watched it when I did as it appears to have been taken down now. Science and data seen as hate speech now?

saltedcaramelchocolate · 22/02/2023 08:41

swallowedAfly · 22/02/2023 08:16

Glad I watched it when I did as it appears to have been taken down now. Science and data seen as hate speech now?

twitter.com/2022affirmation/status/1628292647424253952?t=DHUxuu-jR5ZufT2Trirrhw&s=19
They have a back up link.

saltedcaramelchocolate · 22/02/2023 08:45

Also here
www.thedistancemag.com/p/affirmation-generation-the-lies-of

happydappy2 · 22/02/2023 08:56

It should be mandatory watching for anyone making policies in this area-it is so obvious gay children are being transed in alarming numbers. As well as autistic children & young adults who mistakenly latch onto a trans identity.

swallowedAfly · 22/02/2023 10:39

The whole magic bullet promise is covered well too. So many who thought it would be the answer to everything.

Glad there's back up links but eye rolling at it being taken down.

Bellaisoneluckywoman · 07/03/2023 09:39

I'm about to send a link to the documentary to the Safeguarding Lead at my daughter's school. They are rather captured so wish me luck.....

Bellaisoneluckywoman · 07/03/2023 09:42

@swallowedAfly I couldn't agree more about feeing betrayed by Labour and politically homeless, btw. I will not vote for any party that supports self ID - which means I guess I'll have to sit on my hands come the next election unless people bloody wake up. GRRRR.

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