Never Fully Dressed

[Jellycatspyjamas]

So an advert for Never Fully Dressed popped up on Facebook, featuring their Tara Flower Dress modelled by a man, his face is obscured but the picture is clearly male. Is there nowhere women can just buy stuff without being faced with male appropriation. Guess it’s another place to cross off my shopping list.

ITara Flower Dress

That's a woman!

What the heck is wrong with you. That’s a woman. We don’t all have cleavage!

That's a woman, the same one who's in the 4th picture.

Umm I think that’s a woman and even if it’s not I do not give one solitary shit

Looks like a woman to me too.

And even if it were a man I can't see the issue. Men should be "allowed" to wear dresses.

It's a woman, the same one as the fourth picture. It's an awful picture of her, as cropping her head off and the weird lighting has made her front look really weird and a bit mannish. But not male.

This is why I always scoff at the ‘you can always tell’ types

No, you really can’t, you’re just being judgmental

If you could always tell them I wouldn’t have been mistaken for a man and a trans woman so many times because I don’t meet society’s expectations of woman but there’s no getting that through to the judgey fuckers who think their opinion based on a cropped photo is what decides woman or man

That looks like a woman to me. But also it really doesn’t matter who models dresses. In an ideal men could wear dresses if they wish without comments or pretending they are women. Women’s concerns about men come from a place of safety and dignity. This just isn’t it.

Jeez that.dress is hideous. My parents had a roller blind in our kitchen in a very similar pattern in the 70s. Still get nightmares about it.

I was thinking exactly the same.

Erm, don't care if they're male or female. Anyone can wear whatever they want, it's just clothes. Wearing stereotypically female clothing doesn't make someone female, not wearing it doesn't make them male.

What the heck is wrong with you.

Clearly my eyesight. Apologies, mea culpa.

£90 for that piece of tat!

I kind of want to see how the dress looks worn by someone of my shape though. So I don't give two hoots if a bloke wants to wear a dress in his free time, but I also don't want him modelling a dress I might want to buy. However by that standard I'd also appreciate dresses not being modelled by incredibly thin models and I'm yet to see much of that despite all the so called body positivity talk these days....

I can't see a man, which one?

You're in luck - click through to picture 7.
(obvs I don't know what shape you are but the model certainly isn't incredibly thin)

Yup

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I quite like it but then I’m a skip diving chazza shopper (with a preference for the stinky pile-it-high charity shops, not the wooden-hanger, colour coordinated ones).

I’d wear it, but I’m paying a fiver, tops.

I expect clothes aimed at women to be modelled by women. Men who want to cross dress can do so in private, not in my space.

Odd that when you talk of your figure you call it 'someone of my shape' yet refer to the models shape as 'incredibly thin' for the record the model is not incredibly thin she is someone of a different shape to you

Same they don't show it from the front on the bigger model. I need to know what it looks like on big boobs!

I get what you mean op, I'm sick of make up brands I follow being appropriated by men. I've had to unfollow practically every make up brand on IG because they have men putting on the make up in their videos.

It's kind of the point though.

When women knew anyone modelling women's clothes or walking into women's spaces was always going to be an actual woman, we could all focus on the wonderful diversity of the female form and notice the beauty of it. Androgeny and butchness were all part of that beauty and diversity.

Now, unfortunately, we've all had to start being wary because it may well be a man that we are being expected to participate with in a belief system and political campaign without consent or care for impact on women. And at best it can be a major turn off because who wants to be bludgeoned with politics, and at worst in women's spaces it can involve fear and exclusion. And it means that diversity has been slammed into reverse.

Scolding women for not taking the abuse more nicely and in a more politically naicely fashionable way again victim blames without putting the responsibility on those who caused the issue in the first place.

So bizarre - why just from the back???! It's the classic thing they do in fashion - oh you want normal, ok well here's a size 22 model. I just want to see someone who is a size 12!!!! And maybe not in their teens or 20s - but to be fair I don't think that dress is targeting my demographic (thankfully - definitely reminds me of some curtains my grandmother had)