How to connect with other gc women in Canada?

[Bonkersworknonsense]

I’m in BC and while I’ve lived here most of my life I do not have a soul here who is gender critical. My friends have a variety of reactions, from apathy to full-on twaw. A friend who teaches science to teens told me today that “there are many different permutations of xy chromosomes that can lead to a variety of gender expressions”. I mean, good grief.

I’d love to speak to women in my time zone, but don’t know how to go about finding any. I feel like the last feminist in the village 😬

Hello from Toronto! (Not your time zone unfortunately). What would you want to be talking about?

Hello! Also in BC!
I keep my opinions to myself here, based on what some Facebook friends post 😐

I follow WDI canada on social media but I would personally like more resources myself. I know my username implies I’m in the united states. I was born in texas. I live in canada though.

There is also women matter canada.

Oh right! I forgot about a big one! So sorry for the spam OP. Cawsbar! Stands for canadian women’s sex based rights!

www.cawsbar.ca/

Hello all! @UpToMyElbowsInDiapers really just chat about the whole thing, as it affects women and kids. When new events arise (Sturgeon, fella at the gym in Parksville, etc) it’d be nice to talk to a human about instead of just watching The Mess (watching their chats cheers me up a bit Vis a vis I’m not the only person thinking like this).

@LemonTreeSkies hello fellow British Columbian! I’m on the Island.

and hello @pissedoffamericawoman ! I’ve googled my city and feminist groups but just get “inclusive” ones that include men.

It can feel here like I’m living amongst a mass delusion and it would be nice to get together with like minded women. I met one, but she moved up-Island so I don’t see her now.

I’ve glanced at cawsbar merch, but not sure if they have any local chapters?

Hello, I'm in the lower mainland! I work at a university and am constantly having to bite my tongue, every-time I go to the ladies washroom where theres
signs saying "trans welcome" I have to say (under my breath), "no they're not!" At another college I work at, I'm in a department of international colleagues, and perhaps less surprisingly we're all on the same wavelength where trans issues are concerned, Canadians have really drunk the kool-aid!

I may be wrong, but the last couple of times I've visited the island, things seem particularly liberal there? I can't remember which town it was, but there's one that seemed awash with rainbow crossings :(

Oh, and how long have you been here? I've been here 10 years and I don't know that I want to live out my days here, I find the MAID scheme extremely concerning too.

Not that I am aware of… Sadly I am in the Maritimes so very little resources in my area. But I was hoping those resources would help you connect to like minded women on social media and in return find some groups to maybe talk to.

I have yet to connect to any support groups myself. I’ve been running into the same issue. I do hope you have better luck in BC. I’ve heard of a small grass roots women’s group rising up in Prince Edward island though so maybe my luck will start to turn around soon! 😅

I was just telling my husband, after reading an article about a catholic teacher getting fired for telling parents the school was trying to transition their kids secretly, that I feeling like we are living in an orwellian dystopian society.

@pissedoffamericawoman Yes!! That's exactly what it feels like

I’m in the Okanagan. There’s not much to note here but I know a few fb friends are leaning towards TWAW views

Hello @Mrstwiddle ! Yes, the capital is very captured. Pride flags everywhere, schools, businesses, places of worship. It’s intense, and yea, very dystopian.

I think people equate any questioning with homophobia and as we know homophobia is bad people’s brains cannot engage with this topic. Few of us seem able to realise this is a threat to gay and lesbian kids and young adults, and that the T has nothing to do with lgb, and that lgb was never a conflict of rights w the straight population.

it all seems blitheringly obvious to me, but friends who haven’t thought about it in any depth correct me and come up with massively odd shit. I referred to someone as a trans-identified man and a woman friend, a nurse, told me that that was a woman who identifies as a man.

It would be nice to meet some critical thinkers in person, and also some people who had done some reading on the various problems with gender theory.

Oh, and @Mrstwiddle i am Canadian. I lived in England for x years (don’t want to put myself too much), but am from BC.

I’m in B.C., too old for anyone to take what I say seriously or so it seems.
As a retired nurse, most of my retired nursing colleagues know the difference between men and women.
My dh is very gender critical.

One of the many many long list of things that triggered me to turn team terf was when my husband went to the ER for c diff. I’m sure you’re well aware of what a nasty and humiliating disease that is. This hospital decided they needed to be inclusive which means they needed to mix sex the rooms.

My husband who was banned from using any restroom for fear of contamination was placed with a 90 year old woman as a roommate. For some reason the curtain was caught on something so it could not be closed. They gave him a commode and told him that’s all he could use. He protested that he couldn’t do that because there was no privacy but before he could finish his sentence the nurse ran out.

Very sick and out of options he used the commode. He was humiliated and felt ashamed. Luckily the woman was not all there which I’m sure they staff was counting on so she wouldn’t be able to complain. Both my husband and this woman where victims of a very screwed up situation. He told me what was going on on facetime as this was during covid so I was not able to visit. I had a premature newborn and could not risk her becoming infected.

I called the hospital and raised hell. At the very least fix the damn curtain! They also didn’t change his commode until it was nearly over flowing despite him pleading with them multiple times! He then threatened to use the public restroom if they didn’t and then they sighed acting like he was being unreasonable. Absolutely disgusting treatment in the name of inclusivity!

Shame on canada for putting my husband and this poor women in this screwed up situation!

@pissedoffamericawoman besides lack of confidentiality, unsanitary and simply poor nursing care.

Yes I agree. I tried not to make it about the nurses because the hospital was clearly busy but yes the nurses certainly didn’t help in the matter!

@Bonkersworknonsense I'm on the island too! How sad that I am scared to say exactly where on here. Roughly south- to mid-island, shall we say. PM me if you are anywhere near.

I know this place seem beyond hope sometimes, but I also know through whispered conversations that there are more GC women around than we realize.

I know this place seem beyond hope sometimes, but I also know through whispered conversations that there are more GC women around than we realize.

It is great seeing you all make connections and I hope you’ll find a way to branch out to real life connections. I wanted to give you hope as a Brit.

I found these boards in late 2016. I remember a thread where a journalist had very cautiously pointed out the emperor was naked, possibly one of Janice Turner’s early columns. Everyone on the thread was thrilled but still afraid. The tone of the thread was muted, cautious but there was nascent hope that a crack had appeared in #nodebate. Look at where we are now!

The fightback is possible. You already have some incredibly brave women trying to hold the line like Amy Hamm, Meghan Murphy and the women at Vancouver Rape Relief. Start small, find each other and get incrementally braver and more vocal.

Just seconding what @BettyFilous says. I'm UK & don't want to clog up your Canadian thread here but keep looking. Sisters are out there! X

I am also in the UK. Don't want to clutter you up, but keep looking. The dawn is beginning to break, I think. At least it's dawning on some people that TWAW etc is nonsense (not in the science industry unfortunately - the science person for International Women's Day is a TiM; Twitter response is a snowstorm of anger).

Thanks so much, British women. Both for the encouragement and for your amazing example.

Having lived in both countries I feel that Brits are naturally less subservient and more questioning than your average Canadian … but we still must try!

As an american I definitely feel that. I knew things were different when my canadian husband was horrified when I corrected a wrong order at a restaurant. Said I should just eat my food. I didn’t listen though. I said I ordered correctly and I paid for it I want what I asked for. He has now gotten used to this. But I’ve definitely noticed a lot of canadians see me as a pain in their ass because I don’t shut up and put up like them.