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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"periods: a genderless function" FFS!!!

184 replies

whistleblown · 07/02/2023 17:23

How greedy and selfish of us to keen periods to ourselves all this time. 🙄🙄🙄

"periods: a genderless function" FFS!!!
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mostlysunnywithshowers · 07/02/2023 21:55

Is this trans agenda part of a depopulation agenda by any chance? With this level of general confusion over basic facts of life, I think we are heading for a birth bust!

kelsae · 07/02/2023 22:00

More scared that we will have more teenage pregnancy

ErrolTheDragon · 07/02/2023 22:04

You are proving the point in the post! In the menstruation huts would be men and women. Menstruation extends to people with female biology who identify as men. That's what it's saying.

No, you are misunderstanding the reality of what 'gender' actually is. Those huts would have women and girls in them, because their sex and the gender norms of that society. They wouldn't be able to 'identify' out of that.

This is why we feminists are 'gender critical', we want to liberate women from the constraints of gender.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 07/02/2023 22:41

Qhite why transmen desperately want to be included in a conversation about something so inherently female, beats me.

I know it's not the same thing, but you don't tend to hear of men with gynaecomastia making a big scene about how it's not just women who have breasts.

Obviously, they shouldn't feel any shame in it whatsoever; but usually, people would prefer not to broadcast far and wide when they have a physical reality that is associated with the opposite sex to what they are (or to what they believe they are).

babyjellyfish · 07/02/2023 23:36

NewPanDrawer · 07/02/2023 20:44

You are proving the point in the post! In the menstruation huts would be men and women. Menstruation extends to people with female biology who identify as men. That's what it's saying.

No they wouldn't, because none of the women and girls banished to menstrual huts every month are daft enough to think womanhood is something you can choose to identify into or out of.

Gender ideology is a belief system primarily for privileged white people who want to play at being oppressed.

CharlieParley · 07/02/2023 23:43

This narrative, that not all women experience menstruation, is irresponsible.

At least 99.4% to 99.7% of all female people experience menstruation at least once in their lives. Those who do not, need to see a doctor, because the conditions preventing menarche (the name for the first period) often need medical treatment.

That makes this as near universal a female condition as it is possible to find. Especially considering that with medical treatment many girls in that 0.3% to 0.6% experience menarche, too.

Referring to women not menstruating (after menarche), because of health or age - no idea what bodily factors are if not either one of the former, but leaving out pregnancy and breastfeeding is just more dishonesty.

CharlieParley · 07/02/2023 23:55

You are proving the point in the post! In the menstruation huts would be men and women. Menstruation extends to people with female biology who identify as men. That's what it's saying.

Nonsense. Men are male. They do not menstruate. Only women and girls have periods.

And you're misunderstanding the point made by the poster you're reacting to - only female people are forced to endure menstruation huts, because the societies they live in adhere to misogynist belief systems that see menstruating women and girls as dirty, disgusting and/or dangerous to men. As if they would leave any man besmirched who had to interact with them while they are menstruating.

They would put any menstruating female identifying as a man into these huts not because they accept that men can menstruate (their belief systems make this an impossibility anyway) but precisely because they would not accept that women and girls could ever change sex. Only women and girls menstruate, so anyone who menstruates must therefore be a woman or a girl and thus belongs in the huts.

Ohifyouinsist · 08/02/2023 00:02

NewPanDrawer · 07/02/2023 19:05

This post is not about transwomen claiming to have periods, which always sparks such fury on here.

This is about transmen actually having them. The fact that the words are muddled is a problem. But all they are saying is that biological women with dysphoria who want to be known as men still menstruate. And they don't want to have to revert to identifying as women to be able to say so.

Why do they have to identify as anything to be able to say they have periods? I don't understand.

OnlyTheWeedsGrow · 08/02/2023 02:34

The result of the latest ad showing this rubbish is why I have unsubscribed and will no longer engage with the company.
How can they profess to be relevant, useful and best regarding periods, sanitary protection and products, if they can’t even understand the difference between sex and gender, male and female?
If a company/health care provider/anyone decides to focus on identity/personality/delusion rather than science/medicine/reality, then I will no longer place my trust, money or belief in them.
FFS it is mass delusion, and it is horrifying.

aloris · 08/02/2023 02:35

CharlieParley · 07/02/2023 23:43

This narrative, that not all women experience menstruation, is irresponsible.

At least 99.4% to 99.7% of all female people experience menstruation at least once in their lives. Those who do not, need to see a doctor, because the conditions preventing menarche (the name for the first period) often need medical treatment.

That makes this as near universal a female condition as it is possible to find. Especially considering that with medical treatment many girls in that 0.3% to 0.6% experience menarche, too.

Referring to women not menstruating (after menarche), because of health or age - no idea what bodily factors are if not either one of the former, but leaving out pregnancy and breastfeeding is just more dishonesty.

Yes it's the difference between: not menstruating because you have a medical problem or are not the right age, vs not menstruating because... you are not a woman. Very big difference between, for example, not menstruating because you had a hysterectomy because you had endometriosis, vs not menstruating because you are a male with a healthy male body.

SLS500 · 08/02/2023 05:36

I think if we stop giving this nonsense attention it might disappear

JuneOsborne · 08/02/2023 06:06

I'm going reimagine period pants.

I'm going to create ones with a patch at the front designed to make sure you have cramps. Then a patch at the back for javelin arse. Then I'm going to make sure they have a big pouch of blood in them and release it randomly.

I ma also going to.make them.of nylon, so the nethers wearing them are sweaty and smelly. I'm then going to build into the gusset a scratchy pad that scrunches up uncomfortably and sticks to your pubes. And give it a good dose of artificial scent too. I might imbue the pad with candida for good measure.

The instructions will state that they are to be worn for 5 solid days. They can come off for 5 minutes a day for a shower.

I'm going to call them MENstruators.

WickedSerious · 08/02/2023 07:23

EndlessTea · 07/02/2023 19:29

I hate the word nuance too. It’s a smug twat’s word.

Beardy men in skirts love telling us that being a woman is 'nuanced',when what they really mean is 'I haven't got a fucking clue what I'm talking about'.

howmanybicycles · 08/02/2023 07:33

No-one is excluded just because irrelevant identity details are not mentioned when discussing a biological thing which affects only females. I don't remember short women specifically being mentioned when period are discussed which makes me feel marginalised. Nor grey haired atheists. This is so triggering.

howmanybicycles · 08/02/2023 07:34

WickedSerious · 08/02/2023 07:23

Beardy men in skirts love telling us that being a woman is 'nuanced',when what they really mean is 'I haven't got a fucking clue what I'm talking about'.

Actually what I think they mean is 'get back in your box and stop demanding rights and recognition'.

mrshoho · 08/02/2023 07:45

What I want to know is why these stupid companies whose main business is supplying period products are spouting this crap. 99.99% of their customers are women and girls. Girls need clear and factual information regarding their bodies.

Florissant · 08/02/2023 07:49

NewPanDrawer · 07/02/2023 19:05

This post is not about transwomen claiming to have periods, which always sparks such fury on here.

This is about transmen actually having them. The fact that the words are muddled is a problem. But all they are saying is that biological women with dysphoria who want to be known as men still menstruate. And they don't want to have to revert to identifying as women to be able to say so.

I am so glad to have Oscar's nonsense genderlessly mansplained to me.

nilsmousehammer · 08/02/2023 07:51

howmanybicycles · 08/02/2023 07:34

Actually what I think they mean is 'get back in your box and stop demanding rights and recognition'.

All the parts of womanhood that are interesting (read into that all the various flavours that are part of it) are being commandeered to be owned and controlled by men.

And the demand as you say, is that women shut up, stop whining and arguing because of hurting the feelings of the muggers, and just accept they aren't people and that men are now men, and men are now women, and the group formerly known as women are..... well. Subhuman thingies that there aren't any words for that men don't get shirty about 'but I want that one too!'.

So the answer is a comprehensive, yeah on your bike with alllll of that mate.

nzborn · 08/02/2023 08:08

This reminds me of when some food companies started advertising their products as gluten free, joining the gluten free bandwagon when this diet became popular years ago. But their product never had gluten in it before. Its all about the sales.

Sweetmotherofallthatisholyabov · 08/02/2023 08:10

What is a gendered function? There is no such thing. Because gender is in the eye of the beholder. It's like identifying as beautiful.

ErrolTheDragon · 08/02/2023 08:19

What is a gendered function? There is no such thing.
A gendered function is something that happens when man-made rules and constraints are applied to one or other sex.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 08/02/2023 08:23

99.99% of their customers are women and girls.

That low? Presumably, the other 0.01% are buying them on behalf of women and girls.

FeinCuroxiVooz · 08/02/2023 08:30

I agree that periods are a genderless function. They only happen for bodies that are biologically female, regardless of gender feelings, it is not possible to identify out of having them (though it is possible to stop them with medication or surgery if that's necessary). if a male-bodied child starts bleeding at the crotch that's a serious problem. if a female bodied child doesn't have a period by the age of 14 or so then medical examination in case there's an issue that needs investigation is sensible, and that's equally true if the female child in question likes to be called a gender-neutral or male name (possibly even more so as it could indicate that they have accessed an unregulated supply of inappropriate medication).

Period products manufacturers who make everything pink and flowery and imbued with a sickly-sweet perfume to be more prissy and girly-girly annoy me. And if talking about periods in a gender neutral way helps the often-autistic and vulnerable people who are trying to navigate their way to adulthood without all the crap that's labelled "how to be a woman" through ongoing sexism embedded in our culture, then that's not doing any harm.

it does need to be clear that when any kind of facilities or provision is separated into male and female due to anything connected to the fact that some kinds of bodies produce large gametes and have regular periods needing additional hygiene facilities, and have the capacity to get pregnant, and other kinds of bodies produce small gametes and can get the other kind of person to be pregnant, then the division of such facilities or provision must always be on the basis of sex, not gender. examples include lavatories, hospital wards, prisons and sleeping arrangements on school trips, scout&guide camps etc.

Calmdown14 · 08/02/2023 08:36

Where are all these women whose periods are in some way connected to their identity.

I've never come across anyone who considers their period in this way.

In fact Oscar, for women who suffer infertility they are a delightful sign of failure every month that they'd rather not have to endure.

They are painful and debilitating for many.

But hey, let's not consider the feelings of these ordinary boring women that just have to lump it

WandaWomblesaurus · 08/02/2023 08:39

If men think they are having periods out of their penises they need medical and psychiatric help.
If men have had their penises removed and they are having blood coming out of the wound that is left they need medical help.
If a woman who transitions to call themselves Oscar is having a period it's just a period. Not a magical gender period.
Just an ordinary boring period.